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I feel like some adcs could need just a few buffs to become good again.

ElegantDoge·12/1/2016, 11:39:55 AM·4 votes·1,062 views

First off,the reason i'm suggesting to touch the adcs is because i feel since they don't have too much champions and not overloaded kits(except Kalista but she's getting some closer attention IIRC)not many ups would be needed

Some adcs like Draven,Ashe,Varus(he's getting a small rework on the passiv i know),Lucian ,tristana could use a small buff. It doesn't have to be an overwhelming buff really,but with the changes who happened,it's annoying to see them being ignored.

Of course,they're not the only one and they're not unplayable either.

But foor example,giving more range to lucian Q or making the animation scale on attack speed(like Tristana E) would be nice and i do'nt think it would make him a lot stronger. Ashe should have some of the nerfs reverted,she kept eating nerf on nerf even though she was alright.Now she's pretty much almost back to what she was before the rework:an long range stun bot.She's "ok" when she gets ahead with some items but it's not that easy right now. Giving her back some of her ability to deal damage would be nice really especially since we have Vayne and Twitch who are dominating right now and she'll never EVER be able to deal damage like them(it's not her purpose).She's supposed to be a mix between utility and damage but frankly,Jhin is doing that part a lot better.

These are just some ideas,but i just don't like that this class,even with such a small amount of champs have to be dominated right now by 3-4 champs because the rest is either unable to scale effectively (need way too much items or have a laughable powerspike)or to have a decent laning phase unless you have X situation.

It's frankly annoying to see an enemy team and say "fuck ,they have Twitch/vayne we'll have to be really careful" and when you see an Ashe or Lucian it's just "Are they fed ?No?Well not a big problem then."

I don't think we'll have perfect balance but jsut some small changes would be enough to at least bring them a bit more on par with the best ones.

Sorry if i did some mistakes,i'm french.

7 Comments

IPinPC12/1/2016, 12:28:57 PM1 votes

No. ADCs play depends on positioning. All adc have enough DPS once they acquire items. If you have problems to survive, maybe you should play tank rather than ADC.

WoonStruck12/1/2016, 12:32:00 PM1 votes

Most people agree that Twitch, Vayne, MF, Jhin, and Cait need nerfs.

Why make ADCs even more overpowered as a class instead of nerfing the outliers that are too reliable?

Maximum Morde12/1/2016, 12:36:36 PM1 votes

Rather see them nerf other ADCs. Right clicks already too strong.

Zach Sandwhich12/1/2016, 2:10:05 PM1 votes

I feel we should nerf the stronger options, as the weaker options aren't really bad (aside from Kalista, and even then you can have success on her). The stronger options just heavily overshadow the others.

Drehirth12/1/2016, 5:55:18 PM1 votes

boards really are sad in how much they simply dislike adcs and will blindly downvote somebody even when they make a well written post. twitch and vayne really do need nerfs, but lucian is also basically useless now why is that okay?

Champions are usually only nerfed into oblivion when they are too difficult to balance, and lucian did have the time where he crowded everything out. for the most part he's been a pick that was sub par outside of certain situations, even with a fairly experienced player base. Now he's completely garbage, but any adc kicked down is good to the boards eyes (people really wonder why riot doesn't take this place seriously even when posts are upvoted to the moon- this is basically why)

For some reason they continued to nerf ashe when she really wasn't a big problem anymore. It might be the lack of LCS BIG PLAYS effect, but she's one of the healthiest champions in the game due to being so easy to kill, even when meta, even when fed. every class in the game has a large window where they can have a large impact on how an enemy ashe can do. Not to mention she was my favorite vayne counter for the longest time...

you guys hate vayne right? well nerfing her counters is a large reason why she's so easy to do well with. Even if you were to remove her ability to burst squishies, she's still going to be picked in every game if other adcs have no ability to bully her in lane anymore. So why blindly downvote people justifiably asking for buffs for champions like ashe and lucian? Just wondering?

not having proper conversations about balance makes the boards worthless for actually trying to improve the game; just remember that in the rare occasion somebody actually makes a sensible suggestion that riot ignores (or the occasion where you THINK is a decent suggestion, but is really just a circle jerked thread that you can't believe riot ignored which is usually the case)

having said all of that I do really like the way riot is going about this so far; nerfs to twitch vayne, buffs to fervor, then seeing what champions need help once the smoke clears.