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a Bruiser support?

iniquitý··2 votes·2,855 views

could it work tho?

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MagicFlyingLlama3 votes

Unlikely, at least for a pure bruiser.

Supports need to either have enhancements, damage threat, or significant crowd control. They also need to scale well without gold being as important to that scaling.

Making a support bruiser that could be a threat without being impossible to balance for a solo lane looks incredibly difficult.

Oddities like Pyke TahmKench Galio are about as close as one can get.

Done252 votes

Taric with his enchaned auto attacks and strong in combat sustain.

AlienPrimate1 votes

Just build item 3025 on him and you have yourself a bruiser who can 1v1 a lot of assassins and fighters on a support's income.

Daddy Ants2 votes

No.

Bruiser's are a class of champions that cannot function on low econ.

They need gold for big items like item 3078 item 3053 item 3748

 

This is the reason you don't see champions like Camille or Irelia being played as Support.

They may have good lockdown, damage and chase potential in their kit but they need big items to be champions.

 

Kayle is another "fighter" that I'd say is unviable as a Support.

She needs big items and levels to become a champion.

Kayle will never be able to hit her level 11 and 16 dream when she is splitting experience.

Tahminatrix 1 votes

TahmKench

No hes not a pure tank, most tanks have easily accessible hard cc, either in the form of an aoe or from multiple ways of doing it.

Baron Barian1 votes

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TahmKench

No hes not a pure tank, most tanks have easily accessible hard cc, either in the form of an aoe or from multiple ways of doing it.

Q and W isn't enough hard cc?

macspam2 votes

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Q and W isn't enough hard cc?

Using his W for CC requires stacking up, compare this to leona,who has instant lockdown, Actually braum is kinda in the same boat here as TK i think

Tahminatrix 1 votes

Yes but braum`s ult kind of redeems him after lvl 6 since its an aoe knockup.

Also braum can stack his passive on multiple enemies thanks to the fact that his teammates can finish the proc for him, tahm kench can only stack on 1 or 2 enemies (if he is lucky), and even then he can only cc one person at a time, using his w just means he takes the stacks off of them and his allies cant attack them in his w.....so he is stuck just using his q

w use is extremely niche since you actually lose dps due to the stack removal, the damage isn't worth it and the enemy is in your belly and cannot be attacked by allies unless you happen to have someone like Fiddlesticks

macspam1 votes

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w use is extremely niche since you actually lose dps due to the stack removal, the damage isn't worth it and the enemy is in your belly and cannot be attacked by allies unless you happen to have someone like Fiddlesticks

I'm gonna get nightmare of having my lifeforce drained by a scarecrow while I'm trapped in a fish's belly ... tough image to forget

hrooza dota 1 votes

Braum item 3401 item 3153 item 3124 ?

Widdle Megasette1 votes

I think of Taric

Lovelle1 votes

Trundle Riot always ends up nerfing him for it though.

Oleandervine1 votes

No, it cannot. Bruisers are notable for being melee, having little to no CC, but high damage and decent defensive stats, and relatively low mobility. The very core of their class is an anathema to the support role, and I don't believe the two extremes can be made to coexist in the same champion. You'd basically be making a tank support with high damage if you tried to make a bruiser support.

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