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Balance suggestions! For free!

Princess Bunhead·11/24/2018, 11:30:33 AM·114 votes·18,057 views

How to go about it? No idea, really - but as a player who found S5 to be the most enjoyable season by far, I'm gonna give it a go anyways!

  1. Remove all the keystones - balance around champions instead. Let us choose a 3/2/1 setup from minor runes from different rune paths. This should alleviate a good bit of the burst and cancerous playstyles - also make Zed actually have to land his abilities! :P And as a bonus, should make the game far easier to balance in the long run.

  2. Remove Duskblade dmg addition, maybe replace it with something "visiony", due to later mentioned vision ward changes. Remove Stormrazor completely. Revert Essence Reaver changes. Balance accordingly.

  3. Nerf pure tanks damage, but increase their survivability. Plenty of ways to do this healthily.

  4. Lower plating gold some, and keep them the whole game. Possibly have plating on inhibitor and nexus turrets also. Should make the game longer, and have IE/ER + Zeal item upgrade be doable again on "standard" ADCs. Maybe radically buff nexus turret dmg.

  5. "Un-buff" ignite.

  6. Reinstate season 5 vision trinket upgrades and possibly boot enchants.

  7. Slow down on the minions winning games please.

Unsure of:

  1. Shutdown gold - I had a game where we were at a 4k gold disadvantage, but then we got some lucky shutdowns and objectives, and we suddenly had a 3,2k goldlead within 5 minutes. Don't know if that's all that healthy tbh - but maybe spread the shut down out over "multiple" kills could help that.

And a few pet peeves of mine I'd like see changed, but are not to be taken too seriously:

  1. Nerf high mobility users some, please - high mobility while sacrificing nothing, damage/survivability wise is just stupid.

  2. Nerf Akali's new shroud to regular stealth. Then balance around that - we dont need more frustration in this game.

  3. Revert Malzahar completely and THEN "Annie" him instead.

  4. Griveous wounds - can we just remove this crap, and rebalance problematic champions around that instead, as GW is the difference of those champions being OP or UP in the same game - why not the golden middle road?

79 Comments

qewqewqewqew11/24/2018, 2:23:33 PM36 votes
  1. Remove runes
Daddy Ants11/24/2018, 4:11:06 PM20 votes

GW should NOT be removed.

I don't want to see Soraka, Vladimir and Mundo every game because their kits counterplay was removed.

HA I am Shaco HA11/24/2018, 2:23:32 PM13 votes

revert Shaco Shaco

Zybertooth11/24/2018, 12:14:24 PM8 votes

Griveous wounds should work on shields as well imo, then we can counter build riven, urgot, yasuo, viktor, ect.

Zed, and many other AD spell spammers should probs not have their long range skills do fully dmg through/inside minions I agree.

HÔPÊ11/24/2018, 5:18:41 PM7 votes

  1. I don't want runes to be removed. Balancing around champions only would be boring and I would probably quit the game. The game is boring enough as it is. They should be changed though and be unique, just like kleptomancy and glacial augument. Those keystones that give more dmg are stupid, braindead and broken. Those should be completely removed.

  2. Completely agree.

  3. Not really easy to do. If you remove dmg from them, nobody would play them. They are boring even now and they were boring in tank meta. I think they should introduce more active items for tanks or rework tanks into more utility champions, that have auras. Aura would increase stats like ms for other champions or maybe they should be more engaging and disengaging, so that tank players feel like useful and having fun.

  4. I would rather just buff towers. They are dying too fast. In an equal match, my yi top pushed all the towers with his attack speed and just ended the game solo. There was nothing the enemy team could do. He was just melting them.

  5. Completely agree. Also revert tp changes and introduce a new summoner spell. Preferably a summoner spell that teleports you to a nearby ally. It can create some outplay potential in bot lane. Right now bot lane is braindead.

  6. Agree or they should just introduce new trinkets, that would work in various ways. We could use some trinkets that would follow the enemy around, like that one from wolves in S5.

  7. If they buff towers it would get fixed itself.

I would really love if riot gave us more outplay POTENTIAL, not outplay BUTTONS like R on Karthus and Zed for example. R that buffs a champion or changes its playstyle is ok, but an ultimate ability that just kills you is not. Actually Zed is a bad example, you can just flash his abilities, but there are many champions that just click R and kill you (Veigar, Syndra).

But champions like that are Akali and Irelia and we hate them. Mostly because they need a nerf and they are not getting it. Akali is banned in 60-70% of matches and Irelia is obviously too strong. Both are well designed, but poorly balanced. That nerf for Akali's W was actually pretty good and maybe she needs just a little bit extra changes and shifts in damage, so that she won't be banned as much.

I honestly think that Zoe, Akali and Irelia are well designed. Just balanced really poorly. Zoe does too much dmg from that W. E and Q are easy to dodge, but her W does a lot of damage and cannot be dodged. She also gets free stuff from it. Irelia is doing a lot of dmg and it wouldn't be that bad if her stun wasn't so easy to hit. She can place it behind her and then just jump to a dying minion and hit it perfectly. Nothing really difficult about that. With her skill set I would expect at least this ability to be difficult in use.

About Malza. He isn't that strong, but his supression is garbage and should be removed completely.

Pika Fox11/24/2018, 3:23:16 PM7 votes

Yes, lets listen to people who have no idea what theyre doing instead of letting riot, the ones who DO, manage their own game properly!

SKHynix11/24/2018, 3:00:31 PM6 votes

And the most important. REMOVE RNG.

HyperTechno11/24/2018, 9:31:10 PM5 votes

Me like what I see. For reals, this is well written, and I like some of the ideas. I do think S9 is better than S8, but if they implement some of your ideas it could be even better. I even think post like yours will grab the Balance Teams attention or Riot. Keep up with the good work.

The Trent11/24/2018, 3:48:02 PM4 votes

I was destroying a team and we were in their base, but they got one ace on us and their minions went like sonic speed into our base and they could end before we could respawn. They destroyed 4 turrets and an inhib before a single one of us got up.

King Braum11/24/2018, 2:40:28 PM4 votes

yes

TheDärkExile11/25/2018, 6:24:17 PM3 votes

Don't remove keystones cuz it would make many champs completely useless

Instead just revert to the old rune/mastery system

Ionian Vulpix11/24/2018, 4:09:36 PM2 votes

Grievous Wounds is important. No one wants Vlad, Trundle, Warwick, Maokai, ADCs, etc. never dying because they just heal up without something to contest the healing.

Cptn Han SoloQ11/25/2018, 6:41:05 PM2 votes

I am intrigued, what do u mean by Annie him?[sg-lux-2]