Reason why people hate Azir?

AdanYEva·Dec 19, 2015·4 votes·2,210 views

the mention of a buff makes people go insane!

48 Comments

Sneakyy XDDec 19, 20154 votes

Because he's already OP

blfUvZ8YbuDec 19, 20151 votes

Silly.Your main not Azir.Maybe Lux? Ahri? Am I right?

AdanYEvaDec 19, 20152 votes

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Because he's already OP

~45% win-rate OP?

Sneakyy XDDec 19, 20152 votes

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~45% win-rate OP?

How can a win rate be overpowered or underpowered?

AdanYEvaDec 19, 20151 votes

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How can a win rate be overpowered or underpowered?

because if it's more than 50% then he's more reliable early/mid/late game giving that % rate, a win-rate less than 50% means there a 5% anomally to the champ that hinders the victory at early/mid/or late game, if the game is balanced, every champ has to be ~50%, at the juggernaut re-work, darius/garen was at 60% win-rate +, what does that tell u? at some point in game: early/mid/late he's incredibly strong/reliable

Sneakyy XDDec 19, 20151 votes

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because if it's more than 50% then he's more reliable early/mid/late game giving that % rate, a win-rate less than 50% means there a 5% anomally to the champ that hinders the victory at early/mid/or late game, if the game is balanced, every champ has to be ~50%, at the juggernaut re-work, darius/garen was at 60% win-rate +, what does that tell u? at some point in game: early/mid/late he's incredibly strong/reliable

That doesn't tell me how a win rate can be overpowered or underpowered.

blfUvZ8YbuDec 19, 20151 votes

You haven't argument so shut up.

blfUvZ8YbuDec 19, 20151 votes

Not even %45.In 1-5 minutes only %39.

NemeBroDec 20, 20153 votes

Because he's already more or less the strongest mid laner in the game if you know how to use him. People don't want him buffed for that reason.

AnonymousPoroDec 20, 20153 votes

Let's see...

Endless poking capabilities(thanks to his sand soldiers) whilst being able to farm from a distancesafely. Passive allows him to create towers that do double the damage of a normal tower(that although has a very short time-span and is very weak). An early game bully and a carry late-game. One of the strongest mid-laners in the entire game(even can destroy a Yasuo-master[I.E, me]) when used properly.

So, yeah. I main the guy and agree that he's perfectly fine the way he is. No buffs, no nerfs, nothing.

blfUvZ8YbuDec 20, 20152 votes

Useless passive.I want Lissandra's passive to Azir.Early game bully wtf??? You kidding me.Azir has big mana problems early game.Not strongest mid laner.You want seeing powerful mid laner you look Lux.Also your main Lux not Azir because what you say completely wrong.Azir is trash in soloq.0 effective in the game.

AnonymousPoroDec 20, 20151 votes

His passive isn't useless, man. If you manage to take down an enemy turret, you can virtually trap an enemy and farm at the same time.
Okay... maybe bully isn't the right word... as I said, he can poke enemies back to where they can't farm, even when they're under-turret. I did exaggerate when I said he was the strongest, although he's still pretty high on the list. Wtf does Lux have to do with any of this xD. I don't even play her. Man, I will buy FRAPS right now and record myself playing the game and show how effective Azir can be in the midlane.

Also, just as an FYI, I looked on your profile and saw that you seem to be seriously not like Azir. Perhaps your opinions are a little biased?

FioraWillCarryDec 20, 20151 votes

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Useless passive.I want Lissandra's passive to Azir.Early game bully wtf??? You kidding me.Azir has big mana problems early game.Not strongest mid laner.You want seeing powerful mid laner you look Lux.Also your main Lux not Azir because what you say completely wrong.Azir is trash in soloq.0 effective in the game.

Azir's passive netted me my 1st quadra with him. It took me a while but I figured out how to use his passive effectively in fights. Most people would just put it down just because they have it and they're near a fallen turret. Unless you're attempting to siege the next turret and want to protect yourself from ganks don't do this.

What you want to do is you try to bait a couple of enemies toward you and near a fallen turret near the beginning of team fights. When someone from your team engages and starts fighting with them, you pop the turret right there and and poke them with your W/Q and wait for an opportunity to use your ult. You can use your ult to pin/push them unto your turret depending on how they are positioned during the fight or you can use it to escape if things don't go well.

Don't underestimate the usefulness of Azir's passive.

blfUvZ8YbuDec 20, 20151 votes

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Azir's passive netted me my 1st quadra with him. It took me a while but I figured out how to use his passive effectively in fights. Most people would just put it down just because they have it and they're near a fallen turret. Unless you're attempting to siege the next turret and want to protect yourself from ganks don't do this.

What you want to do is you try to bait a couple of enemies toward you and near a fallen turret near the beginning of team fights. When someone from your team engages and starts fighting with them, you pop the turret right there and and poke them with your W/Q and wait for an opportunity to use your ult. You can use your ult to pin/push them unto your turret depending on how they are positioned during the fight or you can use it to escape if things don't go well.

Don't underestimate the usefulness of Azir's passive.

Azir must be good in soloq.We don't want endure this problem.

FioraWillCarryDec 20, 20151 votes

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Azir must be good in soloq.We don't want endure this problem.

Im lost :(

What are you trying to say here?

blfUvZ8YbuDec 21, 20151 votes

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??

Im lost :(

What are you trying to say here?

Namely this skills no benefits for Azir.Azir is trash in soloq and not viable in pro-scene.Formerly Azir has to played pro-scene but not not anymore.This passive available only push to lane.You don't stay without your team under Azir tower.So Azir needs buffs (not a buff) a lot buff.

AnonymousPoroDec 21, 20151 votes

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Namely this skills no benefits for Azir.Azir is trash in soloq and not viable in pro-scene.Formerly Azir has to played pro-scene but not not anymore.This passive available only push to lane.You don't stay without your team under Azir tower.So Azir needs buffs (not a buff) a lot buff.

You've never played against a good Azir, have you?

blfUvZ8YbuDec 21, 20151 votes

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You've never played against a good Azir, have you?

Nobody don't play.Azir's pick rate and ban rate clear.

AnonymousPoroDec 21, 20151 votes

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Nobody don't play.Azir's pick rate and ban rate clear.

According to champion.gg, his pick rate is 5.08% and his ban-rate is 0.66%. I want you go to this site and look at all the champs that are played less than him. There's almost 140 more champs that are played less than him. Same with the ban-rate.

blfUvZ8YbuDec 22, 20151 votes

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According to champion.gg, his pick rate is 5.08% and his ban-rate is 0.66%. I want you go to this site and look at all the champs that are played less than him. There's almost 140 more champs that are played less than him. Same with the ban-rate.

Not the good current state.Azir is fun to play.That's why pick rate is much than other not viable mid champion.

AyRe CoNteMpTDec 19, 20152 votes

azir is a king, a leader, a god. he commands armies and controls the flow of entire wars. he is one of the strongest champions in the game and possibly the strongest midlaner.

tho all these things also mean that he has to be smart or at least not braindead. soldiers wont follow a stupid leader, thats why it looks like he is weak. a leader without followers is weak. a king without subordinates is nothing.

azir commands his player to not be an idiot, but as you know: nobody listens in soloQ

blfUvZ8YbuDec 19, 20151 votes

But everyone are playing in soloq.

AyRe CoNteMpTDec 19, 20152 votes

well then it seems that soloQ winrate just isnt enough evidence to talk about balance i guess

blfUvZ8YbuDec 19, 20151 votes

I guess enough and very even.

SSJTribeDec 19, 20152 votes

Since his soldiers are untargetable, he has the potential to be an early game lane bully who turns into a late game hyper carry with good self peel. Kind of like Vayne, he doesn't really have any weaknesses except for his learning curve.

AdanYEvaDec 19, 20152 votes

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Since his soldiers are untargetable, he has the potential to be an early game lane bully who turns into a late game hyper carry with good self peel. Kind of like Vayne, he doesn't really have any weaknesses except for his learning curve.

dat ~40% win-ratio tho

SSJTribeDec 20, 20152 votes

I don't disagree, but that's why people freak out when anyone mentions buffs for him. He does everything really well, and is still played most games in LCS despite his 44% soloQ winrate

blfUvZ8YbuDec 20, 20152 votes

I don't care Lcs.I'am in soloq player.Do you understand?????? We(Azir mains) got tired this situation.Azir is trash in soloq every time.

SSJTribeDec 20, 20155 votes

then get better with him. He's not trash at all, he's very good in fact. If he was bad he wouldn't get picked all the time, despite his 44% winrate he is still the 13th most common midlaner.

blfUvZ8YbuDec 20, 20152 votes

No.Main problem Azir still isn't rewarding experienced Azir players.You look http://champion.gg/champion/Azir. 125+games with Azir win only with %42.Very bad.Riot must buff him.Also Azir's bugfix solved.Azir is more easy than before.So Azir needs buffs.This is unacceptable.What await Riot?

BeldairDec 21, 20151 votes

What is your problem with Azir?

All of us NA players and some EU players have said that we think Azir is strong and all your points are to say: he has mana regen problems early game, he only does damage after he gets some items, and his passive is trash.

Hello, basically every caster champ is gonna have mana problems early game, he even does some ok damage without items, and his passive let's him control his lane or trap his opponents.

And this is coming from a subpar Azir.

blfUvZ8YbuDec 22, 20151 votes

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What is your problem with Azir?

All of us NA players and some EU players have said that we think Azir is strong and all your points are to say: he has mana regen problems early game, he only does damage after he gets some items, and his passive is trash.

Hello, basically every caster champ is gonna have mana problems early game, he even does some ok damage without items, and his passive let's him control his lane or trap his opponents.

And this is coming from a subpar Azir.

Azir is trash in soloq.Problem this.

BeldairDec 22, 20151 votes

Maybe on your server, but on the NA servers Azir is quite good.

blfUvZ8YbuDec 22, 20151 votes

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Maybe on your server, but on the NA servers Azir is quite good.

Worst Na server :) You look at statistics.

BeldairDec 22, 20151 votes

I look at actual soloq matches me and my bro have been in.

Azir is quite a deadly foe when played correctly.

blfUvZ8YbuDec 22, 20151 votes

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I look at actual soloq matches me and my bro have been in.

Azir is quite a deadly foe when played correctly.

Azir is a difficult champion.I repeat main problem Azir still isn't rewarding experienced Azir players.So Azir is trash in soloq now.Also Azir isn't viable in pro scene.125+games Azir's win rate %42.Yes true only %42.Very bad.You must accept.

BeldairDec 22, 20151 votes

Like i've said in other threads, not every champ can have a 50% win rate.. It is not possible.

And funny how he sure seems to clinch wins for the good Azir's me and my bro have seen.

And not every champ will see a lot of action in the pro scene, that's just statistics. Pro's will always go with champs that they do their absolute best in. So champs like Yorick or WW won't see a lot since 1) the fell off meta and 2) few ppl play them (even if they are quite strong as well).

blfUvZ8YbuDec 22, 20151 votes

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Like i've said in other threads, not every champ can have a 50% win rate.. It is not possible.

And funny how he sure seems to clinch wins for the good Azir's me and my bro have seen.

And not every champ will see a lot of action in the pro scene, that's just statistics. Pro's will always go with champs that they do their absolute best in. So champs like Yorick or WW won't see a lot since 1) the fell off meta and 2) few ppl play them (even if they are quite strong as well).

You don't understand.Not %50 win rate.Experienced players must have %50 and over %50 win rate.If you specialize other champions,you have %55 or %60 win rate.Absolutely Azir needs buffs.

MunchCrunchLunchDec 20, 20152 votes

because hes a lane bully. and hes not fun to play as

blfUvZ8YbuDec 20, 20151 votes

Lane bully???? You playing bronze elo?? Azir has 0 damage until Rylai and Nashor.

BeldairDec 20, 20152 votes

Not every champ can have a 50% win rate.

Azir is a strong laner when played correctly. His ult can help your team disengage or single someone out. His soldier combo can do a ton of damage.

blfUvZ8YbuDec 20, 20151 votes

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Not every champ can have a 50% win rate.

Azir is a strong laner when played correctly. His ult can help your team disengage or single someone out. His soldier combo can do a ton of damage.

Wrong.

BeldairDec 21, 20151 votes

Then you've obviously never faced against a good Azir.

blfUvZ8YbuDec 21, 20151 votes

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Then you've obviously never faced against a good Azir.

A good Azir? Wtf.If you specialize, you succeed all champions.Not an excuse.

blfUvZ8YbuDec 21, 20151 votes

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A good Azir? Wtf.If you specialize, you succeed all champions.Not an excuse.

A master Azir only to live in the game.But other category players suffer with him.

blfUvZ8YbuDec 19, 20151 votes

Because they don't playing against Azir.(Reason) Also they don't good playing with Azir and front other simple champions .

SasogwaDec 20, 20151 votes

Azir is a champion that when fully mastered, is insanely good, but sucks if you don't master him well. If we do in sort that people who don't master him that well do ok with him, people that master him will pretty much have free wins. And then, why play any other champion that Azir and train with him knowing that if you get good enough with him, you're gonna roflstomp everyone?

BigBlackZacDec 20, 20151 votes

In my experience 85% of Azir players will summon 2 sand soldiers and send them at you. When that happens your window to attack opens; because they no longer have a means of fighting back other than their auto attack.

I have danced all over Azirs wiith Ekko and Yasuo so any champ with mobility will destroy a bad Azir