I would rather have old Darius and Fiora back then the new reworks. At least then I could actually play them in ranked. Sure they were not the best in teamfights, but I could win lane, splitpush for days and apply so much pressure. Darius has a 89.8% ban rate and Fiora is banned 87.2% of the time. Is Riot ever going to fix this?
I actually prefer this over the old Fiora. At least now she needs some skill and doesnt just press R and your carry is ded/ press E and your tower is ded...
Regardless of how stupid his heal is, old Darius was still much more cancerous to face.
Split push is actually cancer
Just wait a bit, Fiora at least will stop being banned so much soonish. She's not too bad anymore.
They said they balanced them given their last nerfs and people just need to stop banning them to see. (--yeah right LOL)
New fiora fulfills her fantasy the way I've been waiting for it to do for years, I'd rather that when I do play her she plays like a fencer and not like the go to anti adc point and click missile that she was.
You absolutely do NOT want old Fiora back.
She was insanely more broken than she is now.
I wouldn't, both of them were 100% cancer to lane against. And both are just as if not more prone to being kited to death than they were before
i wish i could have old darius back.... because even if the new one stops being banned all the time i'll never play him again because of how far away from actually playing darius it feels :(
i want my sustainless splitpushing duelist back :(
I wish I could play pre rework Darius too :(
Silly OP, don't you know how riot reworks go? First, they take an underplayed champ. Then they dumpster everything about the champ that appealed to fans of said champ. THEN they slap on new shiny abilities and skills that no one wanted to make them appeal to more people. THEN the champ becomes flavor of the month, usually due to being hideously OP and gets spammed every game because of the new abilities, so they have to nerf them into the ground to compensate.
End result. A champion who is still underplayed, but now no longer appeals to the players who played them in the first place when they weren't so great. This will be the SECOND time they've done it to Skarner, and Cass still hasn't recovered from her little rework. It'll happen to the rest too, just give it time.
According to riot, it's totally okay because the high banrate means they aren't played enough to be op.
God i love this company
I think the entire Juggernaut rework was a COMPLETE failure on every champion. There were plenty of things Riot could have done to tweak the champions into being viable without the awful rework that occurred. Fiora and Darius literally will have to be completely gutted before they ever see play again, which of course means no one will play them.
Old Darius > New Darius Old Fiora < New Fiora
Old Darius could be balanced, new Darius cannot. Old Fiora couldn't be balanced, new Fiora can.
People ban him most games. Because of this no one ever plays against him and never actually learns how to fight him. As a result, in the few games he is picked he is played against people with almost no experience fighting him, so he gets fed and is perceived as OP and as a result his ban rate increases even more.
Positive feedback loop.
Im hurt as well, I mained Fiora on one account and mained Darius on this account. I laughed at the unnatural changes they did. Im sure they will be toned right in due time. They seriously can`t leave them like they are.
in others words you either can not relearn a champ or you just don't want to keep putting in the time+effort into doing so? as for their ban rates it is either A) people are to afraid to face them, B) people have yet to find ways to counter-fight them, and/or C) they just flat-out don't feel like even trying to face them.
Darius is up to 90.1% Ban Rate. Fiora 76.9%.
Release Darius, or the Darius we had last month?
