Can someone explain how the current annie is alright but old veigar wasn't?
No but really, how. How is the current annie "healthy" and offers enough "counterplay" but the old veigar wasn't/didn't? That just doesn't make sense.
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veigar can hold onto his stun indefinitely while doing whatever the fuq he wants while annie can hold her stun indefinitely while doing nothing but AA
and veigar has longer range and zoning capabilities
No but really, how. How is the current annie "healthy" and offers enough "counterplay" but the old veigar wasn't/didn't?
Viegar's Event Horizon was essentially a 1025 range point-click stun with 0 warning, a low CD, and no real opportunity cost. He could even throw it down in a siege without hitting anyone and just prevent an enemy team from defending their tower or an objective. Cool beans 2 of your champions can jump over them, now you get to fight a 2v5 and then a 3v5.
Pyromania forces Annie to charge up a stun at the expense of CS/wave-clear/zonning, or she doesn't get a stun for doing those things. Her stun also has a substantially higher mana cost or CD, which can be massive points to play around. And finally - Annie's kit doesn't have anything that close to the 1025 range cheese of Veigar's stun ring.
Biggest thing is essentially a no-warning 1025 range near point-click stun on a non-ult skill for Veigar though. Most point-click CC on a mage is an ultimate, and the vast majority of CC in the game comes on skills with slow travel times, slow casting animations, slow wind-up times, and so on. Ahri's Charm, Lux's Light Binding, Malzahar's Silence, - that's the basic form CC comes in. Slow and single-target.
Not instant, 1025 range, multi-target.
annie needs to use 5 spells to immediately stun someone.....veigar only needs one. plus the obliterating ult doesnt really help old veigars case....
what do you mean ??
i think both are pretty balanced as you can easily dodge veigars w when in his e jsut dont get stunned and run around :D but annie i think she needs a buff
Because Annie needs 
to get kills early game.
If she cant flash. She wont get anything. Her stun and combo can be seen from 29499 miles away.
But makes her unpredictable and a battle of reaction times.