ADCs are not dead because the itemization did it but...

Trontie·7/1/2018, 7:24:13 AM·45 votes·13,121 views

Because every other champ in the game can oneshot with a combo. That's the REAL problem in this game. Finally ADCs are balanced and need to play well to became carries and not farming like tards and buy op items till the best-stat bot'd win. So Riot, please hear: Nerf game's damage => Fix ADCs => Fix game

39 Comments

TakaDama7/1/2018, 7:37:46 AM22 votes

Actually you are right but also wrong in regards to how the adc itemization didn't hurt the ADC role.

ADCs are pretty much all about sustained damage to objectives and champions. To that effect, Stormrazor's Edge was a failure.

You know who does love that front-loaded damage? Assassins that can completely invalidate the ADC role if they catch them and delete them do. And with Stormrazor and Duskblade dealing an excessive amount of damage, catching and escaping is pretty easy for AD assassins.

UnboundHades7/1/2018, 7:35:42 AM15 votes

Adcs aren't dead

Malix Farwin7/1/2018, 11:27:16 AM8 votes

ADCs aren't dead, ADCs are going through the exact same rotation they have been for a long time, one set of ADCs is weak and another set is strong. The only thing that has changed is that bot lane has opened up to more champions(which is a good thing). Before the adc change u still saw only 3-4 adcs played.

saltran7/1/2018, 2:21:20 PM4 votes

Nah, adcs were one shotted pre 8.11 aswell so I don't think that that's the reason

Painted Celt7/1/2018, 5:33:43 PM3 votes

The title should be shortened to just "ADCs are not dead"... Nerf the one shot damage but don't claim that ADCs are dead when the statistics show they're still the most popular class in the game.

Rayet7/1/2018, 10:02:20 PM3 votes

I mean how are you supposed to do sustained damage when even an Amumu can burst you to half hp with item 3111 item 3001?

Exalomaniac7/1/2018, 3:13:17 PM3 votes

As an ADC main, ill have to agree on ADC finally being balanced. Getting to the point where you are carrying hasn't ever felt so rewarding. But yeah, every other role in the game being definitely stronger than ADCs and the fact that the itemization delayed ADC usefulness is a problem that needs to be adressed, and very quickly.

Dorans Pants7/2/2018, 10:10:42 AM2 votes

not only dmg but also the fact that everyone can get on top of you to blow you up. I can´t tell how often i am sitting next to a teamfight as an adc thinking to myself:

"i can´t join" "everyone can jump at and oneshot me in a second" "and there are still like 4 dashes out there, and the ones that were used will be up again pretty soon." "good thing our frontline dove their backline, so there is no one left to help me. (sarcasm)" "and there comes shadowassassin kayn through a wall, and even though I´m quite far away from that wall I´m fairly certain that he will catch up to me anyway"

an ally has been slain

if only I was hypermobile myself then maybe I could have had a chance......

DW Diana7/1/2018, 8:57:20 AM2 votes

You missed a stage there. ADC's die to hypermobile hypercarries that burst them down in a split second. They need time to scale while the hypermobile hypercarries scale of just a part of an item (e.g. item 3134 item 3057 ). Hypermobile Hypercarries used to be countered by specific mages (e.g. Malzahar ) who are no longer able to do so, thus their dominance. Mages like Malz used to be countered by other mages (e.g. Velkoz ) who in turn got countered by champions like Galio who got countered by ADC's and hypermobile hypercarries.

In short:

Fixing Malz etc will reintroduce mages and mage counters to midlane which will in turn allow scaling gameplay again which will benefit marksmen who also need to scale.

Right now midlane is the problem, and it's hurting every other lane apart from top lane. Even junglers have found themselves as supports in the current funnel tactic to allow a midlaner to gain enough gold to scale. Want hypermobile hypercarries to stop stomping every game? Bring back their counters who are currently enjoying a holiday in Malzahar's condo in the Void xD

YourAreMyQueen7/1/2018, 3:03:07 PM2 votes

They're dead because champions like wukong can 100-0 tanks in under a second with literally no counterplay, let alone adcs.

LordGeovanni7/1/2018, 8:51:23 PM1 votes

I dont think adcs are balanced they only really got gold nerfs to come online later with a crit build while they got gold buffs to every other build style and hp and ad buffs to compensate. Adc damage needs to be lowered for real and then everything else can lose damage Most preferably through longer cooldowns. and less resets

FoxV7/1/2018, 5:09:35 PM1 votes

Ever heard of Lethality

BrightWîngs7/2/2018, 2:51:12 AM1 votes

all Im saying my damage does not justify how squishy I am

AmazoX7/1/2018, 4:33:19 PM1 votes

Theres much more to discuss than just this, you have to give an example of this argument to back it up.