Ignore shields is terrible mechanic on pyke's ult

DemoGuide·6/6/2018, 7:44:08 AM·43 votes·20,417 views

It sucks when you play someone like Blitzcrank It sucks wheyn you play someone like Orianna It sucks when you like to take Barrier on your champion It just sucks in generel.

I do think pyke ult is too fucking overloaded for a single ability. I don't have problems fighting him in general, but the fact that his ult ignores shields, resets on kill, aoe, has a great range, grants extra gold, has a super low cast time and also can teleport Pyke disgusts me. Maybe something has to go in exchange for some power in basic kit? And my vote is for shield ignorance. Please remove it, feels terrible.

EDIT: For all the people saing we need somehow to counter shieldstacking, yes, thats true, but i believe having it on an executable ult is worst way possible.

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Latex Choker6/6/2018, 10:05:10 AM23 votes

If Pyke Ult didn't bypass shields it would have to do a LOT more damage to compensate. Remember, he's designed to be fighting enchanters who will stack shields on any low HP target he's eyeballing. It sucks to fight against, but like Urgot the counterplay is not falling below the threshold in the first place, or dodging the ult itself. I'd rather not go back to Pyke ult dealing 1200+ True damage just to make a few shield champs feel better.

Astorine6/6/2018, 7:49:57 AM11 votes

Pykes ult is what makes him, yet it is overloaded unfun trash. Due to this Pyke will forever be a hard to balance walking pile of cancer. As a blitzcrank myself, going up against him feels absolutely awful. He also takes quite a few hits for an assassin that doesn't gain max hp as well.

Nyarlathοtep6/6/2018, 8:28:11 AM9 votes

Maybe because its an execute? Like urgot's ulti?

Netorare6/6/2018, 9:26:02 AM7 votes

Holy fuck people bitch about a champ thats actually only good in the right hands... And Pyke is actually balanced compared to other garbage champs

Verarticus6/6/2018, 6:31:42 PM6 votes

You know what sucks? When your auto is about to land and kill someone but then they get a heal and survive. You know what sucks? Being an AA based champ and having a tank build thornmail. You know what sucks? Building all this armor, but then having true damage ignore it. You know what sucks? Someone flashing your Urgot Q, so you can't lock onto them and they kill you in a minion wave. You know what sucks? Trying to flash over a wall, but being just a bit too far and you die for it. You know what sucks? Blinding someone with a Teemo Q, but then you die to one of their spells.

Welcome to the game. Just because something sucks, doesn't mean it's a bad mechanic or overpowered. It just means you have to actually do something different to deal with it.

Can't shield stack against his ulti? THEN FUCKING DON'T. Use heals, kite him, shield earlier, hell even flash away from him when you think he's gonna do it. There's so many things you can do against a Pyke, and his kit is rather limited. He's good at finishing a fight, or starting a fight. Him ignoring shield stacking when he's gotten an ADC into the kill range already is hardly broken.

My Waifu Vanilla6/6/2018, 3:41:59 PM6 votes

Or....hear me out. You can use your barrier BEFORE you reach the health threshold. I know hard concept right?

Colgate Gator6/6/2018, 2:32:01 PM5 votes

Laughs in drowned

Recon12126/6/2018, 4:01:37 PM4 votes

While I do believe his ult is a little too strong, that part of it makes sense. It's an execute, like urgot. it doesn't do dmg it kills 100% if their HEALTH is under the threshold, that's all it is. And unlike other execute ults or high true dmg ults, his is very counterable, I've had many people either flash out of it or stopwatch/znonyas.

Wolfeur6/6/2018, 12:14:48 PM4 votes

Did you complain about Urgot's ult?

Pika Fox6/6/2018, 2:09:57 PM3 votes

This is how literally every execution ult works. Pykes isnt new, urgots had his forever now.

Shielding prevents burst. Use it before your HP drops. Problem solved.

LordGeovanni6/6/2018, 9:38:25 PM2 votes

True Things like that shouldn't exist in the game. Same with Irelia's passive if it does 25-50% more damage versus shields that seems fair compared to having your already puny sheild pop-ed because you dared have a shield that riot more than likely wouldnt let said champion have damage because they have a shield unless they are Orianna Yasou and Riven . But according to riot and dps mains you cant make damage better unless it completely invalidates some defensive mechanic that is already designed underpowered so that it isnt oppressive. but Veigar got his infinite stack moved from q to all of his spells and Nasus got his early game weakness removed because of half cooldown during ult because they fell out of the meta in a meta that didnt favor their play style same with late game adcs.

Boulderox6/6/2018, 2:40:50 PM2 votes

i remember when an "execute" ability wasn't meant to kill you outright on its use, but was based on % missing hp, Nidalee Elise morph Q's, making it an ok ability at full - mid hp, and a nuke/execute at low hp. I think they need to remove the hand holding it has... oh hey, the bar needs to be beyond that point before i can 1 shot them, oh joy... Zed was one of the first, and was decently healthy because it showed when ulting when you did enough damage for it to kill, it wasn't guarenteed unless you did the damage during the ult timer, and were gifted the ability to know when you are overkilling. but now things like Chogath had one for a while, and was kind of hidden unless you knew it, and made fights fairly 1 dimensional. now with Urgot Evelynn Pyke , it is getting silly when the game holds your hand to tell you this is the minimum amount of work you need to do in order to kill the enemy, instead of learning the damage range of the champion and LEARN them, instead just build damage and whack them until the execute range appears... it really dumbs down the game in a lot of ways.

TyroneWatermelon6/6/2018, 5:47:16 PM2 votes

the most retarded thing is that he still gets a reset when he doesn't actually kill a champion for example Guardian angel, Aatrox or Zac passives

BobaFlautist6/6/2018, 2:20:33 PM2 votes

I played against him in Aram as TahmKench .

Never thought I could not have fun as TahmKench in Aram.

M00ndanc36/6/2018, 3:40:07 PM1 votes

The only thing i don't like about it is that it can reset without killing someone. Since it can reset off of popping anivia or aatrox passive as well as banshees, also it goes through malz passive. doesn't break it or anything, just dead.