Illaoi is the definition of an Anti-Fun champion.

ulie love··6 votes·1,525 views

Yeah I get it you dodge out of her Q, W, E and Ult and Tentacles while avoiding taking creep damage and trying to farm under turret and all that good stuff. But in all honesty she is an unhealthy champion especially at lower elo's where people don't know how to play against her. If she gets ahead you need multiple people from your team to take her down or else that lane is lost. If you have a jungler that doesn't understand her ult that lane is gone twice. The damage that comes out of her ult WHILE healing her is utterly disgusting. When I pick a champion and enemy picks illaoi I know that for the next 30-40 minutes I'm not going to have fun and that's what it comes down to. Playing against this champion is just not fun, Laning against her is not fun, It is actually frustrating. She just camps lane and pushes. I really hope whoever designed is not allowed to design champions in the future because she single-handedly makes many people like myself not have fun while playing this already frustrating game.

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Astôlfo6 votes

"she is an unhealthy champion" Incorrect.

"especially at lower elo's where people don't know how to play against her" First of all, low ELO is irrelevant to balance. Like you said, people don't know how to play against a champion, or even just play in general. That's their problem, not the champion's.

"If she gets ahead you need multiple people from your team to take her down or else that lane is lost." Not really. If you know how to play against her, she wouldn't be getting ahead in the first place, or even if she did, it wouldn't be hard to shut her down.

"If you have a jungler that doesn't understand her ult that lane is gone twice." That's their problem, not her's.

"The damage that comes out of her ult WHILE healing her is utterly disgusting." Then don't just stand in her ult and keep fighting her.

"Playing against this champion is just not fun, Laning against her is not fun, It is actually frustrating. She just camps lane and pushes." Like multiple other champions do?

"I really hope whoever designed is not allowed to design champions in the future because she single-handedly makes many people like myself not have fun while playing this already frustrating game." Or you could stop whining and learn how to play against her.

Succubús GF3 votes

You didn't actually provide help, you just basically said "nope you're wrong get good". This is what annoys the hell out of me about boards. People will claim to know everything but never provide information. Her hitbox on her ultimate is huge so if youa re in the middle of it you have to burn flash to not get hit, simple. Provide examples of who beats her and how. Then your claim will actually make sense.

Ralanr4 votes

Don't wait till the animation is half done before moving. Move as soon as it starts. That's how you dodge.

Astôlfo2 votes

Uh yeah except that's sort of what you should do instead of just crying about a champion. Uh, it doesn't even matter if you get hit by the ult blast itself, that does nothing. The tentacles don't hit anything unless she either Ws or there's a Spirit out. Although you can just Flash out, OR, like Ralanr said, don't wait for her to finish her leap and blast, just walk out first before it's done. And then even after the ultimate is cast and the tentacles are out, all you have to do is literally just not be that idiot who keeps fighting her in the middle of the mosh pit and just back out of it instead.

Every single person can beat her provided they know how to play, it's just harder for some matchups than others. Dodge the slow Q. Don't run backwards, run to the side. The W range is fairly small, and it does almost nothing without either IBG proc or a tentacle there to hit you. And even if there is a tentacle, it'll still miss if you actually just walk out of the way fast enough. The E is slow and blocked by minions, just step to the side or stand behind said minion. The ult is literally avoidable in all parts, or you could literally just CC her after she ults with silence/root/suppress/stun/whatever else to prevent her from either casting abilities or moving to hit people with said W.

So, to your question. Who beats her? Every single champion in this game. How? That depends per champion. You can give me a specific champion and I can respond with said specific method for them.

It helps if you're not just whining and think about it rationally.

Penns2 votes

Incorrect

nice argument hehe xd

Astôlfo2 votes

I mean the only reasoning the OP gives to saying they're unhealthy is just them crying and not knowing how to play against said champ.

Yaśuo Main1 votes

You ironically did the same shit OP did and tried to excuse it lol

Ralanr5 votes

Ok, for one thing it's actually annoying to lane against most if not all champions.

Personally I don't think fighting Darius in top is fun. Or Heimer. Or Irelia, or Fiora, Riven, Rumble, etc.

Second: lack of knowledge is something that is meant to be punished. And the ability to learn from your mistakes is what helps you climb. So arguing that she's unfair in bronze due to lack of knowledge means nothing.

So sorry if you don't think she's fun to fight against, because fun is opinion based. I don't find fighting a lot of champions, but I don't think they are all unhealthy (Some yes, but I'll admit I'm biased).

Just dodge. Do the counterplay that you hate. Just like I'll walk into Darius's circle to avoid his full Q, a form of counterplay that I think is fucking stupid but still exists and works.

Don't like Illaoi? Ban her. Can't ban her? Then bite the bullet if she's picked.

Penns2 votes

Ever since I played Yasuo vs Illaoi, dodged every tentacle, moved out of her ult instantly,... and still got killed pretty much just by her W and 1 or 2 unavoidable tentacles after I won lane and killed her.. I really dont like Illaoi and how people say "just dodge" lol.

Ralanr1 votes

Were you building glass cannon or bruiser Yas? There's a reason glass cannon Yasuo does not like top.

Penns1 votes

They swapped and Illaoi went mid.. feelsbadman.

Ralanr1 votes

So I can assume glass cannon? If so then that's why.

Penns1 votes

It was a while ago tho, before PD was even a thing on Yasuo and no one built him tanky. With item 3078 item 3022 or whatever I guess Id beat her.

Calabok3 votes

No, yasuo and fizz is

Ok sure but why3 votes

You can say that again.

KillerPenguins2 votes

Get a bit of armor early on, then punish her hard whenever she misses something. Or just ignore her and roam?

Shaaolin1 votes

Illaoi is easy to beat Any high mobility top laner will beat her hard HAAAAAAARD with riven fiora gnar even teemo with silence

beat her with 2 steps DODGE HER e Flash her ult

ENJOY SHE HAVE 0 DAMAGE NOW

What usually people think for illaoi is that she is supposed to be 0 mobility tank that have utility damage for team (her E) and so they disrespect her and run into 2 tentacles along with jungler get Eed and ulted and go to the boards to complain.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

Illaoi loses lane and feeds... who cares when she can 1 hit the whole enemy team with a good ult lategame...

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