The Shen rant (Thank you RIOT for reading)

abcJINXED·6/18/2016, 10:47:16 PM·1 votes·1,043 views

Real quick I just wanted to give a back ground on this rant, I was jotting down notes during the day to not forget them so my grammar my not be the best but trust me as a Shen main with over 200,000 mastery score and level 7 mastery.... I know my Shen. This rant or plea whatever u want to call it is my complete view of the rework and what I feel should be changed and any other rant related things.

Shen:

Overview: One of the only champions (tank,top laner or any lane) who doesn't have any form of ranged attack or form of poke. Is known as a tank but has some very low base stats so struggles early game. Farming is a challenge as q is ur only source of safely last hitting and farming. Has no sustain and recently grasp of the undying was nerfed. Abilities scale with ap so bad that building 100 ap for his q is a waste, might as well just give him 100 ad instead. Laneing is difficult with your ULT not helping u in any way duel and adding the fact that your early game is week... Doesn't help when games in season 6 are much shorter so that late game isn't as often anymore. Not to mention no wave clear. When looking at MATCHUPS when playing Shen, you pray to yourself, please let it not be a Fiora, Darius, teemo, vlad, Kennan, rumble, poppy, Kayle, ekko, trundle, Quinn, Ryze, pantheon, Jayce, Irelia, yasuo, renekton, or a support tahm kentch. Just give me a singed or another Shen. For someone about "balance" as a ninja.... He's pretty underwhelming. Balance and positioning kit...hindrance on Shen instead of viable in lane. Thx lore.

Rework: old q was found to be too stale and w was even staler. So we changed Shen to now have to use 2 abilities to basically achieve what his old w did instantly. Also lost ki strike his passive for last hitting and trading.

Abilities:

Passive: Obtains a small shield dependable on cooldown and with delay with the exception of e. Basically it's his old stale w replacing his offensive ki strike.

Q: instead of a ranged attack to poke, sustain, last hit, and farm safely under turret. We now have a 3 hit passive that ultimately increases our attack for 3 hits. (Only good thing out of rework) blade can't be thrown out and must be placed by u yourself walking over there and calling it to u... So u can set up the sword behind the enemy laner for an attack later all while the enemy laner bashes u as u walk back to ur side of the minions to do a one time ability for a little extra damage and attack speed to obtain that 3 hit passive a little faster. It's all about balance and positioning as your sword sits there like a beacon and an arrow points the direct of where it is so your enemy stays out of that line or ignores it completely. Q does no damage when pulled through enemy. And only slows enemy slightly when they are running away from u, which usually is only done when a gank is coming and u taunt them and hopefully pull the blade through and after the taunt is done what ever is left of the slow will be used .... Basically worthless....

W: Specified zone of dodging auto attacks for 1.5 seconds. Old w was too stale as an instant shield and also reduced the cool down of ki strike as u aa attack. so we changed it to a dodge zone protecting u only from aa attacks for 1.5 seconds at max rank even. No on the run dodge followed by a stun like jax. No spell shield or anything.... Just the worst defensive shield form there is. But don't worry when the w is activated AND PROCT u get ur passive shield.... Bc ur dodging auto attacks and therefore need ur passive shield to go on cooldown... W also must be obtained effectively by using q first to pull the zone to u. Using 2 abilities of energy to obtain a similar affect of the old Shen w.... At least that's not stale.... Entire kit is based around Shens old stale w. Shield from passive shield from using q and e and dodging with w and ULT even gives shield... He's shield man.........

e: Is the same good ol e that doesn't do damage to minions but now damages and agros monsters but q passive of pulling through doesn't work on monsters. Only real change to e is a nerf to the damage reduction on auto attacks by 50 percent. Now to trade in lane u must use e followed by pulling q to u to create the zone by pushing w expending all abilities and Passive other than ULT to get a AUTO ATTACK FREE engage for an outstanding 1.5 seconds..... Leaving u energyless .

R: The one reason why we play Shen.... Those few who do that is.... The teleport that can be stopped so easily by some good cc from most anyone but still gives that lovely shield.... Not scaling from hp but from ap...

WHAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED: Shens little shield sustain gag is completely worthless if the shield doesn't activate right as the ability is casted. Most of the time u have to see an attack coming to shield in time with champions that have shields. For Shen u sometimes have to guess since the shield doesn't activate right away. So shield upon activation is a must at least. Other things that could help would be the ability to throw his q out and pull it back and maybe it could deal damage. Also his w needs something added to it. Maybe he gains movespeed or ad or attack speed when in the zone or maybe just mr and armor or even damage reduction. The guy is a ninja... Give him something more cool to his kit, maybe his e could change directions mid cast. Or maybe it could return to the original place, or maybe u travel half the distance and use the other half to travel back. Maybe his w could be a zone he jumps back too.

COMBOS: Shen can gain a shield and dodge at least one auto attack from red buff (2 if timed perfectly) or enemy champion and minions ( doesn't work on dragon) . To do so. Simply press q to pull ur sword to u using some of ur energy then press w to make this zone to dodge that auto attack that has already hit u a half a second ago. Remember Shen has now 400 energy meaning it takes 40 seconds to fully charge it. Now that you have basically achieved what Shens old stale w could do.... Ur done..... It also procs ur passive so when u dodge that auto attack u waste the shield. And When ur passive is not up, it doesn't do anything in negating ability damage. Another combo is the kamakazi. Since Shen pretty much gets bullied by most any top laner, this combo is his all in suicide. First you taunt the enemy champion using the only escape move u have. After taunting the Enemy, the bruiser will start auto attacking u at full force since u no longer reduce the damage of auto attacks when u taunt, u then press q to pull the sword in for 3 nice attacks, followed by w to make a zone that hopefully ur enemy doesn't walk away from that allows u to dodge 1 or 2 auto attacks. Since the enemy was taunted, he is unable to use abilities for a short duration. This is a great time to use ur abilities like using 2 of them to achieve not taking damage from an auto attack or 2. Now you are using your 3 hits from q and ur enemy isn't taunted any more, now u have no dash, no shield, no dodge zone and no slow as the slow only works when they run away from u for a short short duration with a slight slow. So basically now you get pummeled by all their abilities and Passives and everything but hey u all-ined and got 3 hits off and a small damage from ur taunt. What a trade. Other combos include pressing q and hitting him then e-ing away like a scared squishy. A great combo for team fighting can be done when an ally is being auto attached, simply taunt to reach them, press q and then w and then a second later they will dodge the next auto attack....... Now u have 1/3 energy left ....

MORE RANT: Look at Shens kit and tell me what is so special about it other than his ULT? Every move including passive is just an inferior version that others have. Q increases damage and sometimes attack speed, wow Fiora has instant attack speed from her w and crits on the last hit. W is a dodge zone, instead Fiora has a counter that does damage and negates ALL damage and can even stun, Shens e is a long cool down dash where Fiora has a low cooldown dash that can do true damage or percent hp damage and even heal. Shens passive gives him a shield later when an abilities has been fully used while Fioras passive reveals week spots nullifying armor and heals from hitting them (sustain) Shens ULT with that huge cooldown lets him shield and ally and teleport to him where Fioras lets her duel practically anyone and destroy tanks, and then makes a heal zone for her and all teammates.... Where shield man just shielded one target and also becomes frozen in a state where u can't attack or do anything.... That's just Fiora... Where in that kit does Shen come out on top? Take every champion that has a shield and see how their shields are all better than Shens, his dodge zone is worse than every form of dodge from other champs. Take another champion like ekko, where does Shen stand out over him? Ekko has a passive after hitting 3 times to do lots of damage, has a dash that isn't a skill shot, has a q poke and slow and has a giant shield that creates a stun zone that lasts for ever.... And a 2nd chance ULT that dose tremendous damage. Shen doesn't have his poke anymore... Ekko has a better or equal version of everything of Shen basically. Most champions provide some buff when shielded like increase damage or something. Take any top laners abilities and realize how bad they can bully out Shen, all those slows stuns heals and percent hp damage crush Shen. All these crazy armor pen items have been added too so even getting tanky is a challenge. Especially when u can't farm. Before match ups were do-able as u could poke down ur enemy or if ur behind u could last hit with q and even farm under the turret, now u have nothing. At least his lore is correct.... Shen seeks balance... As he is always overwhelmed by everyone, he will continue to seek for balance. Which is very clear to him how balance is off when he fights as everyone seems stronger than him.... And this guy is like Zeds equal? Shen is an energy user but yet every other energy user has better moves, ones like real dodge or safety zones like akali's massive vanish zone, all other energy users have ranged attacks and jumps to and from or aoe attacks...... Kennen, akali, zed, lee sin,... U get the point....

Pantheon is similar too, he has a spamable q poke like Shens old q, a move that crits low hp enemies and minions that has no cooldown, kind of like Shens OLD passive ki strike used for last hitting, panth has a jump like Shens but stuns instead of taunts, a ULT that can follow Shen.... AND A PASSIVE THAT BLOCKS AND AA ATTACK THAT IS CONSTANTLY UP UNTIL HIT UNLIKE SHENS COOL DOWN ONE OR DODGE ZONE.... But now Shen doesn't have his q poke like panth .... Panth even has a aoe attack... Shens is wasted on once again shielding or dodging at a unreliable rate and is costly. Where does Shen shine above panth? Where is he not stale??? Also note that the champs I listed that Shen doesn't want to fight against are HARD COUNTERS ... He used to only have a couple but now there are so many. Shen also doesn't counter any one now and other match ups that arnt hard counters are hard ones all the same, except for another Shen and maybe singed. Rly I cant think of anyone else. And if any adc or mid laner or jger goes top... He's screwed.

Thank you riot for taking the time to read my rant, id love to hear any feedback. I am 21 living in the west coast. I've played around 3200 games in my main account.

3 Comments

WithMyHoodieOn6/19/2016, 12:07:06 AM1 votes

Thank you riot for taking the time to read my rant, id love to hear any feedback. I am 21 living in the west coast. I've played around 3200 games in my main account.

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Honestly, I feel like shen is just fine right now. He's not supposed to be a damage dealer or a lane bully, he a tank and a team supportive champ. A lot of his kit is dedicated to team play. You say its hard to farm with him but using the Q in lane to farm minions has a very low foreseeable cost. And yeah, his ap ratio on Q isn't worth building ap for, but in a sense i think thats the point; he is meant to be built full tank. That being said, dashing through an enemy with E and Q'ing will deal 21% max hp dmg, making him a good tank shredder.

You also say the W is "just the worst defensive shield." Have you ever used the W on yourself and your teammates while someone like a Kog Maw or Jinx with Runann's is aa'ing? Think of all the damage it prevents.

I think you're right about him being a ninja in lore but his gameplay does not really reflect that. But I think he is just fine right now

Just throwing in my two cents.

CerealBoxOfDoom6/19/2016, 12:34:35 AM1 votes

I'm actually pretty happy with the new shen.

Though I'm also still trying to find an excuse to build item 3146