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Friendly reminder that Fiddlesticks is getting nerfed

MrLlamaWaffle·4/20/2016, 7:26:20 PM·3 votes·1,398 views

Dread (P) New passive: Fiddle gains Dread after not moving for 1.5s. Immobilizing CC resets this timer. Dread lasts for 1.5s after he starts moving, and grants him 25 / 30 / 35 / 40% movespeed.(Levels 1/6/11/16).

How does this make sense thematically? How does dread relate to moving faster? How does this help his kit at all? The only scenario this new passive is helpful is when you're setting up a Crowstorm so you can run into the team faster so you can be displaced quicker and remain irrelevant. I guess it also helps with running away from your buffs when you inevitably get invaded which will happen even more now that the enemy team has constant timers on your buffs.

Terrify (Q) Range 575 >>> 525

Uh, why?

Drain (W) Looking for some improvments towards “I don’t have a cc so he is just going to back to back drain me forever” Cooldown now starts at end of channel. Cooldown 10 / 9 / 8 / 7 / 6s at start of cast >>> 4 / 3.75 / 3.5 / 3.25 / 3s at end of channel

So, his dueling potential just got WORSE? Wtf is happening here.

Dark Wind (E) Strikes up to 5x >>> 7x Now prioritizes Drain Targets > New Targets > Any Target

"let's throw in some random small buff to Fiddlesticks to overshadow the fact that we're nerfing him for no apparent reason"

Crowstorm (R) Casts at max range if cast out of range Pings “On My Way” to allies

About time.

What is going on here Riot? Are there changes we aren't aware of? Why are you nerfing a champion that is already struggling immensely? Malz is getting a banshees every 6 seconds, Vel Koz going to be game breakingly overpowered, zyra gets an amazing new passive, and fiddle gets 2 nerfs and some QoL changes?

9 Comments

uJhisper4/20/2016, 7:37:31 PM2 votes

Thematically: A living scarecrow would usually sit still then attack someone; pretending to act intimate. This is a common "scarecrow" convention, they're usually still, consciously creeping the crops until ready.

This has a lot of synergy with his jungle & drain. The fact that you only mentioned crowstorm is stupid, he's literally still while draining, making it possible to catch up to the fleeing enemy.

The drain isn't a nerf, it's just an adjustment. Usually, you don't drain enemy champions long enough before the flee. What would happen to you if you began to drain and then suddenly got stunned? The cooldown would be even longer than 3 seconds. It's helpful, sometimes.

Please don't talk about his E being insignificant. PLease. A 7 bounce silence? ......

Embarrassing thread.

Lazypeon1004/20/2016, 7:32:32 PM1 votes

I don't see him as being nerfed. Enemies won't know where he is at any more from his passive, and that should activate rpetty much any time he Ws or ults. That makes sticking to his targets much easier.

The fear range is a small nerf.

W CD time changing is a nerf for best case scenario for fiddle if I'm looking at the numbers right. But unless they were feared or CC'd in some other way, it has always been easy to get out of / stop fiddle drain. For those cases it is a buff. I think that is more of a neutral change.

E was a huge buff and is now a lot more reliable.

Cowgirl Ed4/20/2016, 7:37:46 PM1 votes

They should have make his passive about tenacity. Movespeed literally useless in a world where everybody has some sort of displacement and even a sneeze can trigger Retardsuo's ult

AgentBlack4/20/2016, 8:01:23 PM1 votes

Oh my...what the FUCK.

For the record, I like the new passive, and that's what I came here to say. Automatically triggers during his ult channel (mobility is great while ulting), lets him decide to chase/escape when a Champion breaks his drain tether, etc. The E buff also significantly increases and stabilizes his damage while clearing camps and dueling...

...Which doesn't matter because WTF IS THIS DRAIN NERF. This hurts him SO MUCH. Fucks his DPS past compensation of the E buff, FUCKS his dueling potential. Do you have any idea how many Champions can kill a typical Fiddlesticks in 3 seconds?! I've never felt so punished for hoping Riot would take a look at an outdated Champion.

Lugg4/20/2016, 8:21:13 PM1 votes

These changes vastly improve his ult and help make him viable in lane again since he will have actual waveclear now. The range change on Q is so minor, why would you sweat that?