Elo Hell Is Real

Commbustion··1 votes·324 views

We're playing a game were one player being bad can make you lose the entire game. How does riot not see that? We need to account for other things besides just win and lose. League is not a black and white game. It's all the shades of gray. If you get a troll and bad players as your other 4 teamates. and the enemy team just doesn't have a troll and has ok players that at least are trying and not feeding. You will lose no matter what. You cannot take a team on 5v1. I can go so much more in depth but it's just pointless because riot will never listen to the community. I can suggest other ways to accurately determine what lp lose/gain someone should get but Riot never adds suggested things from the forums. One example though, if you have an afk.... Why do you lose upwards of 20lp. That alone is just retarded

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Dynikus1 votes

Assuming you're above the skill level of your current elo and you're not a troll, the enemy team has a higher probability of having worse players/more trolls than your team, which should average in more games won than lost. 4 variables with 1 constant is more consistent than 5 variables.

Commbustion1 votes

Scientifically and in theoretically yes. But what if those 4 variables (players) Are a LOT worse than the enemy team. and they troll and afk. Aslo, if I win most of my games. over 50 percent. I still end up with like 99lp and only getting one. That's impossible to only lose one lp with a loss. that alone balances out and keeps you stuck.

Dynikus1 votes

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Scientifically and in theoretically yes. But what if those 4 variables (players) Are a LOT worse than the enemy team. and they troll and afk. Aslo, if I win most of my games. over 50 percent. I still end up with like 99lp and only getting one. That's impossible to only lose one lp with a loss. that alone balances out and keeps you stuck.

If you win more games than you lose, you'll climb. The only way you don't climb is if you go on long losing streaks right when you get to promos every single time you get to promos. Those 4 variables have no better of a chance of being terrible than the 5 variables on the other team do. the trolls and afks don't only plague the team you happen to be on.

Commbustion1 votes

You're looking at it from a numbers way. I'm just talking from personal experience. And a lot of other peoples experience

Dynikus1 votes

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You're looking at it from a numbers way. I'm just talking from personal experience. And a lot of other peoples experience

That's experience from players that think they don't belong in bronze. No one wants to think they belong in bronze at their current skill level. But there's no denying if you win a majority of your games you will eventually climb.

1wolfpack1 votes

read the first sentence and yes one person can lose it all. however one person can win it all too and that person is YOU!

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Commbustion1 votes

One person can not win a moba. Maybe in call of duty. if it were a 5v1 you have a slight chance to outplay them. But not with a moba.

Axe2Handle1 votes

As real as Santa Claus or Jeebus. As long as you keep believing they will always be real.

Commbustion1 votes

No, because if I believe in santa and santa is not real. When I put up my Christmas tree then there aren't presents under there you will learn real fast that santa is not real. So if I believe elo hell does not exist but then I get a troll, afk or feeder and bad players every single game. I'd learn real fast.

Volcanuz1 votes

It exists but it is just a state of your mind. Trust me i was stuck on this account for a while, the reason was i had not been in bronze with REAL low ELO for a long long long time. Like since season 1-2. So i hadn't understood what was in store for me in Bronze for OCE. Got to Silver promo's then i let every mofo and their dog tilt me and make me salty until i hit Br5. Seriously i had a 22 game loss streak which took me from silver promo to br5 70 or so LP. I lost the plot, i played my main roles from others accounts (mid and jungle) and i climbed out to br3 but kept being salty.

Then i watched a video which was directed to low ELO players just to see if i forgot or was missing something... i was. Where i am atm i am stable in rank on my main, and i am happy staying there. i get to Dia5, then i got back to plat 2, and it just keep cycling like that and i am HAPPY even in loss i enjoy the game. And due to that i picked up the habit of switching champions constantly, like every game or two i switch to a different mid or jungle but i have close to 200 games on each champ i play in those roles so it didn't matter to me as i knew all the ins and outs of those champs. The problem i am getting at is i brought this mentality to low ELO and ADC role. I played EVERY Adc there was in bot lane ranked. Every game a new champ because i was picking to counter the other ADC instead of play what i was best at, you see in my head i could play them all, and i can all to a okay extent. But i only play 2-3 to great or amazing standards. So i picked one of those champs and now i ONLY play that ADC in that role. Since i did this, i went from half way Br4 to Br1 in a day. My ELO spiked a lot, and i had a 12 game win streak in ranked. My outlook is better, i mute people and DONT RESPOND BACK. Seriously you can't respond back, if you do this they give up or tilt the rest of the team, the more you engage them the deeper your salt gets."

Just mute those who seem hostile RIGHT AWAY. And play for your self.

Michael7021 votes

You're preaching to the choir, buddy. I'm stuck in Gold 1/2 with 450 wins. I lost my plat series 2x due to AFKs/trolls/feeders. My lifetime KDA is 6/3.5/9. I'm a top/jungle main so it's difficult to carry games.

ItsOrval1 votes

I used to believe this, then i decided to actually play for the team instead of myself. This means I gank literally all the time, letting every lane win, and boom we get fed we win. Most people in low elo think theyre the ones that are suppose to carry if they want to win. Thats not the case, if a jungler is going into your lane to gank, let him get the kill, if youre ganking, let them get the kill. This lets your whole team be fed rather than just one person. Good luck

Commbustion1 votes

I already play like this.

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