I think shen cant do dmg as a top lanner like any just because hes is "shen" I just bought him and even the most retarted top laners are doing more dmg then me If someone could help me please my games are now longer being fun cause i aways get matches with lvl 30 bronze silver god and plat and im a lvl 27 ffs plz help
Shonjl5 votesThe whole point of Shen isn't damage. Shen revolves around being one of the scariest tanks in the game. He has 2 shields, a taunt/dash. He is meant to be in the middle of the fight annoying the crap outta the enemy team while also keeping people off his carries.
If you want him to do damage build him AP but don't be surprised when Shen is garbage other than some gimmicky games.
He is meant to be a tanky support, while most other top laners are either carries or juggernauts that are just heavy bruisers. While they come out of lane either tanky and dealing damage or 100-0 you. Shen is meant to come out of lane being made out of a material that would make Braum's shield jealous.
Dreadlocks1 votesShen is capable of doing damage and being a tank. Generally you have to be ahead to do so, but it is still possible lol. 
is a build i like to use, and yeah if i cant afford botrk i get another defensive item.. this is admittedly a more aggressive build for shen. But i love using it :)
Itadaki Seieki1 votesI'm curious why you don't get a DMP.
That slow would help him immensely in chasing/getting a pick or just overall movement speed ( which he lacks if he misses his E to initiate a fight. )
Ralanr1 votesDoes DMP build in combat? Because if not then it has anti synergy with sunfire.
Itadaki Seieki1 votesI don't think it does!
I was thinking more or less if you miss your E and the enemies back off because they're not in the position to fight then you can just rebuild the stacks.
You make a valid point though.
Ralanr1 votesThanks. Sunfire has an interesting effect with items that disable in combat.
I really hate when sunfire and mobility boots are on the same recommend item list. Just try going though the jungle with both of those items.
Blitzidious1 votesDMP build off movement, regardless if you are in combat or not. You can move, attack, move attack, then do it again while in combat to get off some small extra damage, or run around a bit to deal a bit more, OR, just wait to attack when you get all 100 stacks, and slow them. But it's better for just running up on plebs.
Itadaki Seieki1 votesIronically I just played a game as Shen jungle.
Eh. I didn't get far enough to get DMP but yeah. I see what you mean. I usually take Swiftness on my tank junglers.
Ralanr1 votesI prefer Lucidity.
I like CDR.
Dreadlocks1 votesIt builds as long as you arnt being slowed/cc Like i said, if i needed another defensive item i probably would consider it over botrk. This is just a build i like to use when im really fed.
Shonjl1 votesWhy not replace Bork with something like 
or 
? They both give you some type of defensive stat on top of more damage since Bork isn't too great atm. Hell Steraks Gage is the perfect item for both offensive and defensive, you live longer to be more annoying and burn them more, and it gives a decent chunk of %ad
Dreadlocks1 votesI like the extra attack speed, the lifesteal is nice, not to mention it has the slow active, plus the %current help allows shen to dish out some extra dmg. All around i just feel it fits really well for an offensive item. I'd take wits end over merecular, but botrk over wits end. Thats just me though, i'm sure the others would be fine..
Zane Zephyr3 votesShen's job isn't to do damage. Shen's job is to be a frontline tank that taunts people from your carries and shields allies.
Thund3r Ang3l1 votesIn laning phase, you have 3 options with shen depending of your matchup. If you are good with shen, you can be very agressive with your trade early ( Taunt+ Ki Strike With your Grasp proc then fall back with shield then sustain youself with your q on minions for the next trade). You can do that when your opponant go for a cs and you have more minions than him. 2nd Options is to poke with your Q forever and only trade when your opponant come close to you. 3nd option is poke but being very passive and AFK farm while you are scalling and wait for your jungler if he feel to gank your lane. Once lvl 6, this is where shen shine most of the time. To play shen, you need to understand that its not just to be a meat shield tank... his ult exist to turn an agression into your team favor.
I Do agree, laning with shen can be tricky because of his lack of inate power, just keep in mind your Q is your bread and butter and you should always poke with it. However, there is a point where he become so tanky that you can split push and the oppoant need more than one to stop you ( Not that you cant kill him 1vs1, it take time to kill a tank tho...) You can dash through the wall and escape some situation easily.
By the way, Shen can deal damage to a squishy. He have a burst damage, not aoe. Give him titanic hydra with trinity, thormail and sunfire cape and your adc is probably gone if he combo on him. ( Taunt-Hydra-Sheen-Kistrike-Grasp-Sunifre-Thormail-deadmans ) after that, you cant do shit till your taunt is online again.
Ralanr1 votesShen is a tank. Tanks (primary tanks. Mundo is a fighter before anyone gives a cute example of tanks doing stupid amounts of damage) aren't built to do damage but to protect their team through forms of CC and survivability.
Tanks can do damage (grasp has helped with this, as has titanic hydra) but you shouldn't focus on building damage when playing a tank (except for sunfire. It's great for damage hugs).
Some champions are excuses (and all champions are different). Sion for example really benefits from a rushed titanic hydra before you get tank items (cause of his infinite scaling health), but you can play him well with just straight tank items.
Tanks aren't meant to carry (anything can carry though) and I wouldn't get behind a tank with a carry mindset. They really are a lot like the support role sometimes.
But instead of a babysitter, it's a kind next door neighbor or an Aunt/Uncle.
Catastrop1 votesYou aren't building him right.
+Grasp of the Undying. You can 1v1 most enemies, all the while being tanky as hell.
bloodforblood211 votesThank you so much for the people that took the time to help me learn more about the game I will use the info you guys have gave me in oreder to improve in future games.