how to climb as main support @ silver 5?

XTCwithLSD·Nov 1, 2017·1 votes·1,076 views

Hi, I'm currently playing Lux as support in Silver 5. I can honestly say I'm mechanically not the best. I miss some skillshots here and there but as for game sense I'm doing great on that department. Anyway, I started at S3 and demoted to S5. I only played sup, started with Janna/Lulu and then got into Lux because supporting noobs makes no sense. But I'm still losing games due to feeding top/mid mostly. Is there a way i can influence the game so it definitely goes my way or at least have a higher chance of winning?

25 Comments

Call Me NanaNov 1, 20175 votes

well you're playing lux 'support'

and im guessing you're not building a supports kit.

AP MID lux typically builds: item 3165 item 3020 item 3285 item 3135 item 3157 item 3089 or item 3027 item 3102

Support lux should be building much differently: item 3174 item 3504 item 3092 etc.

Suport lux maxes Q first, AP mid lux maxes E first. E costs nearly 2x the amount of mana, and the snare timer will benefit you in lane more to send out q + ult for enough burst to either take down the enemy, or let your adc finish them off.

XTCwithLSDNov 1, 20171 votes

thanks, i usually go the mid route: get coin as first item, upgrade it to 2nd tier but not fully and afterwards i just rush morello and the rest of the ap items.

but ill try the max Q with grail and ardent

swaningtonNov 1, 20171 votes

I've found a strategy as support that's been doing well for me lately. Basically I took the jungler mentality of abandoning a losing lane to keep pressure on lanes that are winning.

So, generally around 20min/mid game, if my adc is bailing hard I will go and support whichever lane is being the most successful. Obviously this depends on who the champs are. If I know my adc is a late game monster and just needs my supp longer then I'll stay.

SnakDatSmilesBakNov 1, 20171 votes

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I've found a strategy as support that's been doing well for me lately. Basically I took the jungler mentality of abandoning a losing lane to keep pressure on lanes that are winning.

So, generally around 20min/mid game, if my adc is bailing hard I will go and support whichever lane is being the most successful. Obviously this depends on who the champs are. If I know my adc is a late game monster and just needs my supp longer then I'll stay.

In my games by 20 minutes there's rarely a lane phase.

swaningtonNov 1, 20171 votes

True but support job doesn't end with laning. You're still best off keeping your main damage dealer alive to help the team and following them around. Lux is awesome for this.

XTCwithLSDNov 1, 20171 votes

i tried to roam as well but i feel bad for all that missed XP/gold. yeah it could result in a kill on mid but if it doesnt then ill be behind in lane.

swaningtonNov 1, 20171 votes

That's a fair point. However, if your adc backs, you still have health, and there's an opportunity at mid, it never hurts just to show up. Best case you get the kill, Worst case you push their laner back a bit and give your mid advantage for a bit. I definitely agree it can be a struggle to balance. Being behind in gold is never fun (that's why i always rush full gold item first and why people spam gatherers in RTS games). But again, you have to put yourself in the backseat as support. If you can help your mid get ahead on CS or kills, then your whole team is better off in the end. Also, it's a good excuse to get some deeper wards planted which will help against ganks for everyone.

StanleyuUcHNov 1, 20171 votes

easy every time you find a good ADC friend him only play with them

FizCapNov 1, 20171 votes

Got from Bronze 3 to Silver 3 currently from just spamming Blitzcrank, just have to get good lol.

XTCwithLSDNov 1, 20171 votes

tried that, not my style. i get poked down super hard and when i hook the tank its gg

CochoNov 1, 20171 votes

A simple one is trying to track the jungler and pinging/saying where he is. It literally helps everyone by a ton if you can spot him. You effect the whole map.

Done25Nov 1, 20171 votes

Play support with solo kill potential. Lux and Blitzcrank are good examples.

XTCwithLSDNov 1, 20171 votes

thats why i abandoned janna and lulu ^^ thinking of playing brand/malz as well

Mig89Nov 1, 20171 votes

Play Zyra/Brand/Leona I was a bronzie until i learned supports can carry, especially at this elo. I easily hit gold. Zyra is nice because she can peel

XTCwithLSDNov 1, 20171 votes

i love leona, just no kill potential and wave clear. i do like zyra so ill try her. thanks

Mig89Nov 1, 20171 votes

Leona has a shit ton of kill potential but youre correct on the waveclear. Leona is the tank support to take if you want kill potential.

SnakDatSmilesBakNov 1, 20171 votes

The best way to win is to go into the game with a plan. Make changes to the plan as you need to in game, but the plan always ends in you winning. If your plan and execution is better you'll win

Here's an example of my default plan on my main, your plan may or may not look like this depending on what your champ can do.

Win lane, crush the enemy adc's gold gain
Get dragon, get them all
Get Herald, usually before 12 minutes
Take all the towers, obviously you don't need to take all but that's the idea
Take all the inhibs
End

chipndip1Nov 1, 20171 votes

First step: STOP PLAYING LUX SUPPORT

Who keeps telling people to do this!?

XTCwithLSDNov 1, 20171 votes

what should i play? janna? if youre paired up with apes then janna brings nothing. its silver not diamond. lux can at least kill people and waveclear like a god. same with leona, if your teams losing you cant stall, you cant do shit basically.

chipndip1Nov 1, 20171 votes

Sona Velkoz

Best bets given what you're looking for.

CinnaBon KittenzDec 10, 20171 votes

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Best bets given what you're looking for.

lmao, you are backwords as fuck, telling this guy that he shouldnt lux support and yet you tell him he should try brand or vel. if you are gunna be a stereotype for hating dps support plz atleast stick to it. LMFAO xD

chipndip1Dec 10, 20171 votes

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lmao, you are backwords as fuck, telling this guy that he shouldnt lux support and yet you tell him he should try brand or vel. if you are gunna be a stereotype for hating dps support plz atleast stick to it. LMFAO xD

Difference: Those two are actually good at being supports since they have variables in their kits that don't need scalings in their passives. Lux relies too much on gold.

StairCasexdNov 1, 20171 votes

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First step: STOP PLAYING LUX SUPPORT

Who keeps telling people to do this!?

Generally you'll find that people will automatically support because she has a sheild, the problem is that most people playing lux support and just build expensive ap items and wonder why they're not getting the damage they want, if they don't build into the mage items and decide to be an actual support, they Lose her burst which is kinda what lux is all about. People who know what they're doing actually pull of Lux support pretty well. But the problem being that you could just play morgana instead.

DoktorKaiserNov 1, 20171 votes

Well stop playing support if possible, if not then find a premade and abuse Janna/Lulu/Sona/Soraka . You cant climb with Lux support because its basically a troll pick, you either build AP and lose because you have no wards and no shields/heals or you go the actual support item route and realize that there is a reason why Lux isnt a support - she hasn't got enough stuff to give if she doesn't have tons of AP. If you really want to keep playing AP supports switch to VelKoz and Brand since they only need rylai+liandrys to be useful unlike some other picks who require full AP build to utilize.