SO they tale talon and Lb's silence but they let fid and morg keep their cc?

mikemil223·12/23/2014, 11:44:14 AM·2 votes·832 views

so they took the silences from lb and talon claiming they are trying to make changes to champs who can kill people without them having any say in the matter. yet fid has can just ult fear and silence u. or even just drain fear silence and by the time u have time to stop him his drain is back up. i know hes easy to beat but the logic is what im targeting. fid can kill ppl without them having any say so why not take his silence? or even take it and give his (already long) fear another second or so or anything else really. that just makes no sense.

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JustMyBassCannon12/23/2014, 12:30:52 PM5 votes

Unlike Fiddlesticks, Talon and Leblanc required absolutely no setup in order to pull off their kill combos. The silences on their kits allowed them to just jump someone whenever they felt like attacking, rotate all spells, then walk away without taking any retaliation.

Fiddlesticks has much more counter-play to any of his initiations. Make sure you have vision of nearby brush to avoid his ultimate. Don't let him just walk up to you and use Terrify. CC him before he gets in range to CC you. Build Tenacity and shorten his disables' durations.

None of those options really worked against Leblanc or Talon, because they could rotate all of their damage output within a second, and their CC matched/out-ranged other targeted CCs. They didn't take 5 seconds to channel their main, non-ultimate damage spell, they took 1 second to rotate everything they have and then walk away with their respective escapes (MS+Stealth on Talon, return blink on Leblanc).

Cumătru Yi12/23/2014, 11:55:26 AM3 votes

They are DPS not burst.

OJ19112/23/2014, 12:26:41 PM3 votes

sorry I forgot talon has to channel his E for 1.5 seconds then wait 3 seconds before he can R2.

wait...

ModThe Djinn12/23/2014, 6:48:18 PM2 votes

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so they took the silences from lb and talon claiming they are trying to make changes to champs who can kill people without them having any say in the matter. yet fid has can just ult fear and silence u. or even just drain fear silence and by the time u have time to stop him his drain is back up. i know hes easy to beat but the logic is what im targeting. fid can kill ppl without them having any say so why not take his silence? or even take it and give his (already long) fear another second or so or anything else really. that just makes no sense.

Fiddlesticks did lose some CC: his silence used to be able to chain-bounce between targets, and now can only silence a target once. He's down to 1.25 seconds of silence on a non-burst character from a potential 3.5 seconds of silence if he got lucky bounces. He can't kill anyone who isn't incredibly far behind in a 1.25 second window.

As for Morgana, she gets to keep hers because one form is a skill-shot based root (which still lets you attack and cast spells, so you have a response) and the other form is a delayed CC that requires you to remain in range.

Both of those characters have counterplay, basically. Talon and LeBlanc would show up, silence you with targeted abilities, and kill you in the 1-2 seconds the silence lasted while you sat there and watched your health bar vanish.

Epilogue of Life12/23/2014, 7:40:44 PM1 votes

Morg's binding hitbox....Riot, fix it.

Kuroi8612/23/2014, 8:12:35 PM1 votes

SO they tale talon and Lb's silence but they let fid and morg keep their cc?

You really have no idea. Talon and LB lost their silence due to their burst. Fid and Morg can take 5-7 seconds to get off their full damage. Talon and LB can do their full damage in 1 second.