Can we revert Darius buffs now?

ID x iKuma·9/9/2015, 12:04:43 AM·29 votes·5,524 views

Honestly he was fine before his hotfix buffs he was weak early and strong later. But now hes strong early and late, hes also less reliant on his Noxian Might, his heals wasn't that strong early-mid game, his damage was reliant on his passive which was fine design.

But now i cant play my champion at all because hes banned every game so please riot just revert the hotfix buffs and let me play my champion before you trash him with nerfs...

25 Comments

RiotRiot Scruffy9/9/2015, 5:50:35 AM14 votes

We already have some nerfs for him up on the PBE for 5.18 I think. Probably keeping the new W mechanic though, as it does make his last hitting a bit less painful (and more skillful) which is reasonable considering his attack speed is pretty low.

5 Stacks GG9/9/2015, 12:13:30 AM4 votes

I personally think he is gonna be fine after the patch 5.18 nerfs, hopefully make him a 50% winrate champion and stop his bans in solo Q.

if it's not the case then I would 100% prefer them reverting him to pre hotfix but we both know it's not gonna happen...

Dunkrius2g9/9/2015, 3:57:27 AM2 votes

Im really tired of people banning him. I really can't wait to see him get nerfed so much so that i can atleast play him.

ID x iKuma9/9/2015, 4:15:05 AM1 votes

will see next patch..

WutsKraken9/9/2015, 4:14:14 PM1 votes

Attack speed buff I liked to help his weakened dueling power. Other buffs? Not so much now that they've put him over the top

IMMENSE COURAGE9/9/2015, 5:34:13 PM1 votes

The big thing i really dislike about vsing current darius is his huge heal in lane. I think it needs to be reduced even further than it currently is slated for in the PBE, scaling back up with levels or something. Maybe attach the healing to his passive, so that it can scale w/ levels? 12% on the PBE is IMO still too high for laning, it should start at 8% and climb up to 12 or 15% with levels. Still, even if they change that it doesn't fix his problem in teamfights. He's oppressive in lane but gets blown up before he really even gets to do anything in teamfights due to poor mobility/lack of inherent tankiness. Rather than his passive giving him a huge AD reward for max stacks (which just further increases his lane dominance but isn't really amazing in teamfights), it should be more geared towards allowing him to survive teamfights and the massive focus/kiting from ranged champions that pretty much invalidates his existence.

the rework doesn't feel like it really shored up darius' weaknesses, instead magnifying his strength of being absurd in lane without really addressing his overall weakness in teamfights. Garen is just miles ahead, even if his lane is weaker, simply because he's much more difficult to stop in teamfights.

Prediction9/9/2015, 5:39:08 PM1 votes

Honestly I don't think Darius warrants a nerf.. he has no escape in lane he's really strong 1v1 at early levels sure but I think the community just overreacted.. nerf his early healing a tad bit and he's balanced.. not to mention his healing is avoidable? You can walk out or deeper into it which takes away his heal that is REALLY important in early game trades. Champions like Riven and Fiora really punish you if you don't heal. He's not THAT great late game I'd even say below average if he didn't get a great start. Unlike most "Juggernauts" you have to come to him. His E is pretty terrible let's be honest. The 25% Armor pen is the only reason you level it. One slow and he's out of the team fight. If you have a champion like Maokai/Naut He will never ever get anywhere near an important target and he's stuck fighting the front line indefinitely. Garen is leagues(kappa) ahead of Darius in most departments. The fact Darius is banned is beyond me he is too free to ganks.

I think Fiora, Morde and Elise all are on a different tax bracket than Darius. If you nerf his healing(as hard as indicated being nerfed) he will be terrible even worse then he was pre hotfix which was just a really really bad champion. He'll have no escape nor survivablity and no damage outside of 5 hits Do you know how hard it is to get 5 hits on a champion with the lowest AS in game? it's really really hard with mediocre AD you will lose most of your trades and it's not close. I think Darius is one of those champions you let play out because of all of his obvious weaknesses outside of lane.