please dont nerf BC because of Lucian.
Lucian is the problem NOT Black Cleaver. Dont nerf 16 fighters/juggernauts because ONE ADC is abusing it lucian is the reason why 40% of marksman pool are unviable because how unbalanced he is. im not asking to gut lucian im asking to nerf him fairly since he is still a fun champion to play.
so riot please dont nerf Fighters/Juggernauts because of Lucian
We'll be nerfing Lucian because of Lucian. Ranges most likely (possible options at present look like Q passthrough range and W range), with the goal of keeping his in fight power/mobility but making him pay a bit more price for it.
TBH Lucian only became a problem when Riot decided that CDR should be very accessible to ADC's
sick of seeing lucian over and over again. fuckin sick. every god damn match the chances of lucian is about 50%. its been 5 months already. what is this bullshit
yes, do us all a favor and gut lucian. hopefully black cleaver will be the incentive to do so
i dont even think that he is unbalanced with this build. It is situational if you look at Probuilds the pros dont build it every game. His high playrate is because he is like the last ADC who doesnt require peel or setup.
Well it's a little bit of both being a problem. Mostly Lucian though yeah.
BC on ADC was super niche last season when we still had old LW. And all the while it costed 3500g; way more than armor powerspikes. I'm guessing BC was supposed to cost that much maybe because it was meant to be a later game item for fighters. The problem with BC strong as a first item is it counters armor and continues to scale itself up with your damage and your opponent's defenses and almost makes the user target agnostic.
Full tanks have been overbearing all season before we decided to bring back BC as relief. But it still has its old problems.
This season though ADCs had to have used 
. Buying this item while often necessary is a sour pill to swallow as it's limited effectiveness attacking carries. Comparitively BC becomes much more attractive to ADCs now that the old generally broken LW is gone. Especially on Lucian who abuses BC unfairly well with his ult, passive and CDR wants.
A possible solution is to put more crit interaction into Lucian's kit but nerf the base effectiveness. Make Lucian's ult crit like MF's? Not sure if it truly solves the problem but for the most part I'm only annoyed with both Lucian with BC. I'm fine with melee characters & Gnar building BC.
when did they say they want to nerf bc?
They will nerf lucian, then black cleaver.
/predictions
