What if we change Vayne's Tumble to just a mobility spell, without the extra damage...?

ˆDekoˆ·12/13/2016, 2:50:06 PM·17 votes·1,132 views

Just a small idea that came in my mind. Just make it a "only-mobility"-Spell without the extra damage on the next Auto. Would fix some of her problems imo

16 Comments

PokladnicaZla12/13/2016, 3:04:47 PM14 votes

So,where would you shift some of the damage lost?

I know she's cancer,but this is gutting.

Borbland12/13/2016, 6:06:00 PM2 votes

For those claming its a huge nerf, dont forget Tumble's CD only starts when she fires her empowered AA. If she doesnt have any empowered attack, she can Tumble more often. Would still be a nerf though, but you can buff her base damage by 3 AD and she'll be fine :- )

warpenguin55512/13/2016, 6:14:46 PM1 votes

i think that would feel kinda shitty, now if she got attack speed instead that would be better. Marksmen need a big push back to being sustained damage over burst damage and AS on her q instead of damage should atleast hurt the 1shot vayne build enough.

Vallalan12/13/2016, 7:19:12 PM1 votes

yeah, vayne would have like sub Kalista level win rates.

not only that but its one of her only short trading tools in lane. when she already has a terribad lane.

what they need to do is revert the crit being sync'd together with the regular auto attack crit. right now if one crits, they both do. thats a nasty huge burst. even with 50% crit the likelyhood of getting them both to crit is a lot lower than you'd think. and without 80% + crit you aren't going to consistently get those huge Q crits which would make her scale at 3+ items like every other adc in the game.

Sraeg201312/13/2016, 8:20:02 PM1 votes

No need to go that far.

All that needs to be done is making it like every other empowered basic attack ability in the game.

Being unable to crit with the bonus damage of the ability.

Teridax6812/14/2016, 2:06:05 AM1 votes

Vayne would probably need some more changes after that, but yeah, this could be a good start. Under no circumstances should Vayne have burst, and her Q + auto provides just that, especially when she gets access to crit. If Vayne were purely DPS-based, as she should be, she could potentially have even better access to personal survivability tools.

Oglaf12/14/2016, 12:19:08 PM1 votes

Not going to happen because of ADC privilege.

O Fallen Scholar12/14/2016, 12:40:33 PM1 votes

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Just a small idea that came in my mind. Just make it a "only-mobility"-Spell without the extra damage on the next Auto. Would fix some of her problems imo

If these are the small ideas you can come up to, consult with your doctor.

Ahristocats12/13/2016, 4:03:36 PM1 votes

you need to add something else to it then either put her stealth on her basic Q (while maybe increase the cooldown or reduce the duration to 0.75) or add an other effect like maybe a small bonus attack speed?