Can you balance Irelia solely to toplane.

Zeppelins circus··1 votes·1,366 views

I pretty much had enough of this crap. It is not just disarm, there is too many stuff she can still do, I do not care about "winrate" some stuff are not even meant to be there.

This champion is a character not meant for a moba.

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MrFawknSunshine1 votes

she cant disarm any more ?

Zeppelins circus1 votes

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she cant disarm any more ?

Aye, it was removed. But hell for mages it means jack shit. Then they make this bogus excuse "she is meant to kill mages".

WHEN was she explained or featured as such. wtf she is a top lane duelist

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

she is meant to kill everything , she is a fighter/diver

oh by the way she has a 45.33% win rate mid, a 48.03% win rate top and an over all win rate of 47.13%

the biggest issue i had with irela was the fact she got to wave clear for free they removed that , her win % dropped like a rock in a pond

Zeppelins circus1 votes

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she is meant to kill everything , she is a fighter/diver

oh by the way she has a 45.33% win rate mid, a 48.03% win rate top and an over all win rate of 47.13%

the biggest issue i had with irela was the fact she got to wave clear for free they removed that , her win % dropped like a rock in a pond

I don't care about the winrate argument. seriously

MrFawknSunshine2 votes

oh ok you want to ignore facts and stats to make your argument valid

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Zeppelins circus1 votes

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oh ok you want to ignore facts and stats to make your argument valid

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Ok, lets say. Riot invented a champion that does not need cs. And can kill a champion 100% from base every 4 mins. And is immobile.

IS that good for the game? Even if it has 30% winrate? Stats show only a fraction. And the fact is, Irelia is terribly designed.

Elite4Runner1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Zeppelins circus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YYOQqizw,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-02-10T19:15:52.894+0000) This champion is a character not meant for a moba.

How do you figure this???

Zeppelins circus1 votes

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How do you figure this???

When I played against her. Obviously.

Elite4Runner1 votes

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

So "because I said so" is your logic here?

K

Zeppelins circus1 votes

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[zombie-brand-mindblown]

So "because I said so" is your logic here?

K

And it is a valid opinion because Riot think so too. They haven't just taken action soon enough. It is not difficult like a math problem.

Elite4Runner1 votes

Even if I believed that Riot had said that they don't believe that Irelia belongs in a moba, which I don't, having the same basic opinion doesn't mean you actually have any valid insight in the matter.

You seem to be consistently making baseless claims with no intention of providing any substantial evidence to support yourself in this post. So I'm just going to leave you to your self-delusion.

Enjoy

Zeppelins circus1 votes

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Even if I believed that Riot had said that they don't believe that Irelia belongs in a moba, which I don't, having the same basic opinion doesn't mean you actually have any valid insight in the matter.

You seem to be consistently making baseless claims with no intention of providing any substantial evidence to support yourself in this post. So I'm just going to leave you to your self-delusion.

Enjoy

Wow, you call me deluded and being hostile for no reason. We are not even know each other. chill your balls down. The other guy explains perfectly well why my viewpoint stands. My experience counts, and you do not even play that gamemode.

You only play ARAM and URF. And those are gamemodes Riot never balances around. Therefore it is logical you do not share my views, BUT in the majorities opinion, I think people will listen to a person who has actually laned against Irelia mid rather than a person that only plays ARAM. Toodles.

Elite4Runner1 votes

You haven't provided any views! lol

Ironically, you've presented more information about my recent history than you have for why you think Irelia needs to be changed.

And I do play Normal matches. I have played URF because URF is out.. Otherwise I play ARAM because they are quick matches .. and I enjoy it. That doesn't mean that I don't have any perspective on playing on Summoner's Rift.

Besides, you're the one who is trying to suggest change. This is your topic. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR SUPPORTING YOUR OWN ARGUMENT.

Zeppelins circus1 votes

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You haven't provided any views! lol

Ironically, you've presented more information about my recent history than you have for why you think Irelia needs to be changed.

And I do play Normal matches. I have played URF because URF is out.. Otherwise I play ARAM because they are quick matches .. and I enjoy it. That doesn't mean that I don't have any perspective on playing on Summoner's Rift.

Besides, you're the one who is trying to suggest change. This is your topic. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR SUPPORTING YOUR OWN ARGUMENT.

I have responsibilities, while you do not. Since you are posting from a sock account. You can spout out toxic words all you want like you did earlier.

You've literally have zero normal games over past 20. My experience and other players gaming experience calls laning against Irelia a awful experience especially when our ranked games are in stake. You are considered the most casual among casuals by Riot. And I'm not insulting you about it, I'm saying there is a reason here why YOU will not admit it, while others will say Irelia is a unhinged champion. It is called customer feedback. I don't need you to judge it. That is Riots to judge. I'm here to discuss about the user experience, not about "stat numbers". For example, pre-nerf silence Kassadin/leblanc had a awful winrate, but he was picked/banned anyway because the user experience was horrendous. I'm saying here, Irelia is the same.

Elite4Runner1 votes

Lol k, I'm sure Riot is going to find your post incredibly valuable.

[vlad-salute]

Zeppelins circus1 votes

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Lol k, I'm sure Riot is going to find your post incredibly valuable.

[vlad-salute]

I'm sure they will. Since they will nerf Irelia even more.

Sir Saltarin1 votes

I hope that she's unplayable on Mid and balanced on Top, that is the goal for Irelia.

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

in the current state of league there is no champ type designed to be in a certain lane.

if it works then its for that lane.

gotta get out of the mind set that this champ is meant for jungle , mid etc

people cried and cried to have diversity in the game. we have it more now then ever and all people do is cry cuz they cant grow or adapt

Sir Saltarin2 votes

Well, I have my own opinion and I never asked for diversity, in fact, I've been saying since the topic was hot that diversity on this game is cáncer.

And you know what?

Riot is realizing aswell that diversity just makes the game more unbalanced. And it's not only harder to balance, some champs on some roles are unhealthy by design: Camille should never be able to go jungle with her E engage, Viktor tank Top should never be able to bully all melees, Cassiopeia shouldn't be bully any ADC on botlane maxing Q.

But, good things are happening.

Camille Jungle has 44% winrate on this patch since Riot decided to kill her jungle role.

Viktor Top has been nerfed several times, but, one more wouldn't hurt.

Cassiopeia since the nerfs is way worse on Botlane, good direction, but more is needed.

Aatrox Jungle has 41% winrate since the last nerfs to his Q extra dmg to Jng minions, nice done.

Good job Riot, keep on this way.

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