@Riot Ahri's Status

Ahris·Aug 24, 2017·3 votes·877 views

Hi! As a previous mid lane player before all the nerfs to Ahri, I consider ahri a troll champ. When I see Ahri, I want to dodge. Only because I know they will feed with her.

I had a game playing with plat players, he locks in Ahri. I tell him she is a hard champ. Then he goes with all the ????????????. Then later gets first blooded and literally go useless for the entire game. She did no damage and was a troll midlaner. I regret not dodging when I saw Ahri. She is a VERY STUPID CHAMP.

People have very big bias issues with Ahri. Takes out statistics for WHATEVER REASON. Like Ahri is clearly weak, a troll champ. I don't want to ever play with one. (A easy champ with average winrate is trash)

If you think Ahri is fine, play with me a game. I want to see you play her. If I see you carrying, sure I will believe(I have not yet see one, every single one of them fed).

32 Comments

Rins Thigh SocksAug 24, 20173 votes

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2579046605/207632867?tab=overview

I mean, I think i didn't feed.

AhrisAug 24, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ahri Lover Rock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YJ7vdIXx,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-08-24T06:15:40.624+0000)

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2579046605/207632867?tab=overview

I mean, I think i didn't feed.

You did not carry. All your lanes won.

EDIT: If you are saying Ahri is a good champ, then play with me, prove to me Ahri is fine. Carry the game when botlane loses(because it is not carrying if your whole team is already winning).

EDIT: People still win games with horrible champs like Ryze, so not surprised there are those who win games with Ahri.

EDIT: Also your botlane won so the game was already decided. You did not carry, botlane did. Even if you lost, if botlane win, then you will still have a 80% chance of winning.

Rins Thigh SocksAug 24, 20172 votes

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You did not carry. All your lanes won.

EDIT: If you are saying Ahri is a good champ, then play with me, prove to me Ahri is fine. Carry the game when botlane loses(because it is not carrying if your whole team is already winning).

EDIT: People still win games with horrible champs like Ryze, so not surprised there are those who win games with Ahri.

EDIT: Also your botlane won so the game was already decided. You did not carry, botlane did. Even if you lost, if botlane win, then you will still have a 80% chance of winning.

Well you said every one of them fed, so I showed you where I didn't feed.

But if you'd like here's my match history. I'm sure I carried at least one of these games.

http://i.imgur.com/cKjy6P9.png

Dorans ShurikenAug 24, 20172 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ahri Lover Rock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YJ7vdIXx,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2017-08-24T06:54:41.462+0000)

Well you said every one of them fed, so I showed you where I didn't feed.

But if you'd like here's my match history. I'm sure I carried at least one of these games.

http://i.imgur.com/cKjy6P9.png

Shh, facts scare shitposters

AhrisAug 24, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ahri Lover Rock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YJ7vdIXx,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2017-08-24T06:54:41.462+0000)

Well you said every one of them fed, so I showed you where I didn't feed.

But if you'd like here's my match history. I'm sure I carried at least one of these games.

http://i.imgur.com/cKjy6P9.png

Okay, how do you check Ahri games like that. I will go through every match. Because ofc even Ryze can carry game.

Also why not play a game with me? Sent friend request. If you can carry the game and do it without getting any other lanes fed or have any broken adc of some sort, with constant jungle pressure, then I will admit.

EDIT: Going through every match atm on op.gg.

EDIT: I looked through all your the matches available in the history in op.gg. The only game that showed that you carried(and no one else) was the 17-5 one from over one month ago. So much for showing your match history and even further proving my point. Ahri is a troll champ that gets carried every game. If from an Ahri main, who literally plays ahri for over 100 games can only get one carry game as Ahri in over a month than that proves that Ahri is a garbage champ. Thankyou for your support and all those fools who believe the same as you.

Rins Thigh SocksAug 24, 20172 votes

{quoted} If you can carry the game and do it without getting any other lanes fed or have any broken adc of some sort,

Well there's your problem.

idk what it is with low elo but there's this huge misconception you're supposed to get super fed off your lane and then 1v5 games like you're Yi.

That's not it in the slightest. You get 1-2 kills in your own lane and then you push and roam bot repeatedly. Secure dragons, vision, make the enemy scared to go on that side of the river, and then 4v2 dive.

Lmao no wonder you think Ahri is bad. You probably just try continually diving for kills and farming and waiting for a late game teamfight like you're gonna outdps their Syndra or peel harder than their Galio peels a fed Kog'Maw LUL

AhrisAug 24, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ahri Lover Rock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YJ7vdIXx,comment-id=00040000000000010000,timestamp=2017-08-24T07:25:50.946+0000)

Well there's your problem.

idk what it is with low elo but there's this huge misconception you're supposed to get super fed off your lane and then 1v5 games like you're Yi.

That's not it in the slightest. You get 1-2 kills in your own lane and then you push and roam bot repeatedly. Secure dragons, vision, make the enemy scared to go on that side of the river, and then 4v2 dive.

Lmao no wonder you think Ahri is bad. You probably just try continually diving for kills and farming and waiting for a late game teamfight like you're gonna outdps their Syndra or peel harder than their Galio peels a fed Kog'Maw LUL

Lol, your match history proves that you can only play one carry Ahri game out of all one month. The reason why you roam bot is for your team to get kills, sure, however, according to your history other lanes were doing well already when you were getting good kda. That shows that other laners have all been stomping the game which lead to your high kda(like ks and free kills from enemy team). What I mean by getting other lanes fed is that they did not achieve doing so by themselves. It shows in kda if the laner did do bad or not. If with you carrying the other laners were doing bad, then it shows that you actually roamed for them. However, out of all your games only one game showed this.

Rins Thigh SocksAug 24, 20172 votes

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Lol, your match history proves that you can only play one carry Ahri game out of all one month. The reason why you roam bot is for your team to get kills, sure, however, according to your history other lanes were doing well already when you were getting good kda. That shows that other laners have all been stomping the game which lead to your high kda(like ks and free kills from enemy team). What I mean by getting other lanes fed is that they did not achieve doing so by themselves. It shows in kda if the laner did do bad or not. If with you carrying the other laners were doing bad, then it shows that you actually roamed for them. However, out of all your games only one game showed this.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2553983198/207632867?tab=overview

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2556097299/207632867?tab=overview

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2556230111/207632867?tab=overview

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2559450206/207632867?tab=overview

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2566570218/207632867?tab=overview

I fail to see how these can be written off as, "Oh you ks'd your team." or "oh there's no way that's actually a hard carry."

Also, how does, it prove I actually roamed for the kills simply because they did poorly? Isn't that a disgustingly arbitrary statement that isn't even close to factual? It's very easy to pick up kills by preventing deaths.

AhrisAug 24, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ahri Lover Rock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YJ7vdIXx,comment-id=0004000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-24T07:55:26.319+0000)

1?

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2553983198/207632867?tab=overview

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2556097299/207632867?tab=overview

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2556230111/207632867?tab=overview

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2559450206/207632867?tab=overview

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2566570218/207632867?tab=overview

I fail to see how these can be written off as, "Oh you ks'd your team." or "oh there's no way that's actually a hard carry."

Also, how does, it prove I actually roamed for the kills simply because they did poorly? Isn't that a disgustingly arbitrary statement that isn't even close to factual? It's very easy to pick up kills by preventing deaths.

Lol k, i will go over every game with you. First one Vayne carried, but i'll give you that one.

2nd one. Other lanes carried(you also had broken caitlyn that time).

3rd one. Pretty obvious, no explanation needed.

4th one. That is the one i said already.

So in over 1 month you had 2. Congratuation for proving your point because obviously an ahri main carrying 2 is a great indicator of champ strength. XD. Ty for spending time to talk to a annoying kid like me, but I need a lot of proofs that will make what I saw from other Ahri's to go away. To be fair i played with a Plat Ahri claiming she is easy then feeding. Never one carrying ahri. Then here you are 2 carrying game in over 1 month. Pretty impressed you can still think that way xD. Ahri's only strength is early and higherelo players know to end it quickly. I too want to end quickly, but obviously low elo players never listen to anyone(many times). Yes I am a low elo. And game balance is for all elos.

Rins Thigh SocksAug 24, 20172 votes

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Lol k, i will go over every game with you. First one Vayne carried, but i'll give you that one.

2nd one. Other lanes carried(you also had broken caitlyn that time).

3rd one. Pretty obvious, no explanation needed.

4th one. That is the one i said already.

So in over 1 month you had 2. Congratuation for proving your point because obviously an ahri main carrying 2 is a great indicator of champ strength. XD. Ty for spending time to talk to a annoying kid like me, but I need a lot of proofs that will make what I saw from other Ahri's to go away. To be fair i played with a Plat Ahri claiming she is easy then feeding. Never one carrying ahri. Then here you are 2 carrying game in over 1 month. Pretty impressed you can still think that way xD. Ahri's only strength is early and higherelo players know to end it quickly. I too want to end quickly, but obviously low elo players never listen to anyone(many times). Yes I am a low elo. And game balance is for all elos.

On what absurd metric are you judging these matches? How the fuck am I getting carried by my AD, Caitlyn, when I have kill participation on 22 kills to her 12, 18 kills to her 5, and 41k damage to her 23k?

On the third how did I get carried when I have 18% of the entire game's damage? That's literally enough damage output for 2 players. And this is in Diamond 3-Diamond 2 which is a whole 2 tiers above you. The players are significantly better in all aspects.

But I guess you did get one thing right.

but obviously low elo players never listen to anyone(many times)

You're right about low elos never listening to anyone. I, the high elo, offered you substantive proof that Ahri is capable of carrying but you, the low elo, continue denying it because you can't judge actual metrics of what makes a good midlaner a good midlaner.

AhrisAug 24, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ahri Lover Rock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YJ7vdIXx,comment-id=000400000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-24T09:22:41.881+0000)

On what absurd metric are you judging these matches? How the fuck am I getting carried by my AD, Caitlyn, when I have kill participation on 22 kills to her 12, 18 kills to her 5, and 41k damage to her 23k?

On the third how did I get carried when I have 18% of the entire game's damage? That's literally enough damage output for 2 players. And this is in Diamond 3-Diamond 2 which is a whole 2 tiers above you. The players are significantly better in all aspects.

But I guess you did get one thing right.

You're right about low elos never listening to anyone. I, the high elo, offered you substantive proof that Ahri is capable of carrying but you, the low elo, continue denying it because you can't judge actual metrics of what makes a good midlaner a good midlaner.

You are not high elo. Even when Ahri was trssh you called her fine. Since then i cannot trust whatever you said.

Game balsnce is for all elo. If ahri is only decent in the highest of mind but trash in the average, then that is a balance issue that needs a rework.

If you continue to use your elo to say that you know more game knowledge, then I am sorry to say but diamond 3 is trash. If you want to say my elo is trash, at least my elo players played better than many plats. I played against diamonds as well many times and it continues to show that what differentiaties a normal player to a high elo player is the way they abuse champs for elo.

Playing ranked for fun is nonsense. Ranked is where you abuse broken things. Even janna support can get to diamond. So much for significant game knowledge. So you think ahri merf in 7.11 was justified? Ofc not.

AhrisAug 24, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ahri Lover Rock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YJ7vdIXx,comment-id=0004000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-24T07:55:26.319+0000)

1?

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2553983198/207632867?tab=overview

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2556097299/207632867?tab=overview

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2556230111/207632867?tab=overview

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2559450206/207632867?tab=overview

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2566570218/207632867?tab=overview

I fail to see how these can be written off as, "Oh you ks'd your team." or "oh there's no way that's actually a hard carry."

Also, how does, it prove I actually roamed for the kills simply because they did poorly? Isn't that a disgustingly arbitrary statement that isn't even close to factual? It's very easy to pick up kills by preventing deaths.

Shiphtur calls her garbage. He is much more knowledgeable about midlane than you. I rest my case.

LeBlanc RoseAug 24, 20171 votes

Duh. The reason why Ryze and Azir have such low winrates is because of their team-reliance and high skill ceiling. And, wouldn't your team also get fed off you getting fed? Isn't that how extending your lead works?

AhrisAug 24, 20171 votes

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Duh. The reason why Ryze and Azir have such low winrates is because of their team-reliance and high skill ceiling. And, wouldn't your team also get fed off you getting fed? Isn't that how extending your lead works?

Ofc that is how you play league.

LeBlanc RoseAug 24, 20171 votes

I don't exactly get your point. I was saying that in relation to you saying that only having 1 game where you were fed and your teammates weren't highlights their lack of skill (or yours) in helping them get kills, and furthering your lead.

AhrisAug 24, 20171 votes

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I don't exactly get your point. I was saying that in relation to you saying that only having 1 game where you were fed and your teammates weren't highlights their lack of skill (or yours) in helping them get kills, and furthering your lead.

Not me. Anyway, i think i get where everyone is coming from now. I realized that the ahri players i played with did not(if i remember right) build gunblade and thus their damage was low throughout the games. If i remember right Ahri was nerfed because of how strong ahri was with gunblade. I was completely missing out on that item and will look to try it and recommend it to my teammates.

After I looked into Shiphtur, i found out that he was doing quite well with gunblade ahri. Just like what Silverudim build. My and other ahri's build path was wrong.

Thanks guys for keeping up with me, ima close this thread.

TarzeusAug 24, 20171 votes

You seem to do fine with ahri

AhrisAug 24, 20171 votes

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You seem to do fine with ahri

play with me then, i'll add u

DrugothAug 24, 20171 votes

Ahri main trashing Ahri? Wtf?

AhrisAug 24, 20171 votes

{quoted}

Ahri main trashing Ahri? Wtf?

No longer, a gutted champ like ahri should stay in the trash bin.

Nut on my ButtAug 24, 20173 votes

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Ahri main trashing Ahri? Wtf?

Trying to get buffs xd

AhrisAug 24, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Daddy Issues,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YJ7vdIXx,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2017-08-24T12:21:13.319+0000)

Trying to get buffs xd

Nvm, i was wrong. Ahri seems still trash. Shipthur called Ahri garbage. And he has much more knowledge about her than anyone here. Thanks a lot guys.

GlîtchyAug 24, 20171 votes

She's fine, I play her a fair amount (used to be a hardcore main) and she's fine imo

AhrisAug 24, 20171 votes

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She's fine, I play her a fair amount (used to be a hardcore main) and she's fine imo

She's trash. She never carries any game. I never want to ever play with Ahri. She only feeds and say she is an easy champ. LOL

deadlychuckAug 24, 20171 votes

The problem is that her only utility ahri offers is damage/assassination and they've restricted the viable usage of that to a very specific build and conditions for it to be viable.

At what points does the freedom to buy any items you want become irrelevant when there is only one viable build and play style per champion?

Serika ZeroAug 24, 20171 votes

ahri is good if you can land your skill shots, she's bad i you can't even when i was maining her (in s4 or s5), i only had half good games and half bad games. Because I suck at hitting skill shots and so on

That's why I play the likes of Akali, pre rework fiora, Diana(WRQ, with Q being point black is essentially and point and click spells and can one shot people), Morgana (you don't have to be a genius to hit your Q when the enemy is stunned from your ult), etc

ModWulf HelhammerAug 24, 20171 votes

She has an above 50% winrate with the second highest mid laner pick rate.

And before you go "win rate doesn't matter", the fact is is that she still wins more games than she loses, with a large enough player base to account for new or inexperienced players.

AhrisAug 24, 20171 votes