The reason I don't like support and why I feel the role has become unfun to me

Tryce Maxwell·Mar 25, 2015·3 votes·1,954 views

You sign up to be permanently the lowest level, have the least gold, obligated into the same item build path for literally every support in the game. You never finish an item, and "will" have on average more deaths than assists. I feel personally that, support, (at least the supports I tend to pick) have very little impact on the game and it's just generally unfun and quite frankly, unrewarding to me. Soraka was one of the few that gave me a real thrill playing, they nerfed her and while I do still play her, she is not nearly as impactful as she used to be.

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FHMarshyMar 25, 20158 votes

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=tryce+maxwell

Ok now, let's take a look.

You played Azir support without any sight stone and went 2-17-5. Most death and least kill participation on your team.

You played Karma support without any sight stone and went 1-13-0. Most death and least kill participation on your team.

You played Soraka support with a sight stone and went 0-4-4. Didn't have the most death, didn't have the least kill participation.

You played Soraka support with a sight stone and went 0-1-13. Least deaths, Almost the most kill participation

See a trend here? Don't blame the role of support when you aren't even willing to play it.

FFS support no sight stone? Azir support?

Don't blame the role please.

BeatzBoyFTWMar 26, 20151 votes

Op must have left crying in the shower lol

Takeuchi 17Mar 26, 20151 votes

lmfao. I hate when people call or play support and then never build a support item, especially SIGHT STONE. thats literally the first and most important item you should ever build on a supp.

its even worse when they do build it and never ward; although warding is something EVERYONE should do, but thats beside the point.

BeatzBoyFTWMar 25, 20157 votes

Ward more, you just saved lots of unnecessary face-check deaths from bushes & drag/baron kills.
You're in charge of the heals & shields you provide to your team. All these provides your team with the power advantage.
Tank support? Then tank the fk out of whatever enemy team's damage gave to you. You have just saved loads of HP loss for your teammates in trade for their high damaging power they have bought from all those worth cs.
Stun'em , silence'em , or even knock'em up ! Give your team some time & space to deal damage whilst using the time well spent from enemies being disabled from your OP cc.

Really, why does everyone bitch about support being the lousiest role ever? "Can't finish my item" my ass. To me, just a sightstone is seriously valuable enough, and then idgaf whatever you build next, be it AP, tanky, or hybrid. Not done finished the item you want? IDC. Just ward the fk out of many important places, and I'll also help you with my part with the upgraded yellows. Seriously, people who say these things are mostly Yasuo Riven Leblanc "support" douches who cried to support lane because he lost his mid lane to someone. Like, wth are you rushing, item 3031 ??

FHMarshyMar 25, 20152 votes

Don't hate on the LB supp, she provides decent poke with a skill shot CC that can zone in lane quite a bit

BeatzBoyFTWMar 25, 20151 votes

Morgana

FHMarshyMar 25, 20151 votes

lol ya so you are saying Leona isn't viable at all because Morgana Janna and Thresh counters her?

BeatzBoyFTWMar 25, 20151 votes

No idea. When I see the word zone, Morg pop in my head first lol :p And also, you have listed other 3 supports which can typically fill the zoning support role instead of LB.

FHMarshyMar 25, 20151 votes

Never said LB is the top pick, but you can't deny her viability

All you are saying is other supports can do what LB does, but you never made a point on LB can't do what other support does.

KstLMar 25, 20151 votes

as plat 2 thresh main player i have to say thresh counter leona badly. I havent lost to leona for 20 games so far. I can poke her by my aa and I hurt. When she tries to dash in., I always can use my e to flat her away. Team fight i can grab core of their team. If she ult first all i need to do is ulting and making their position spilit. So for me, Leona is not really good sup compare to thresh morg or jana.

FHMarshyMar 25, 20151 votes

Yes, That is exactly my point. Leona gets countered but she is by no means not viable in plays.

JamareeMar 25, 20155 votes

If you don't finish an item, have more death then assist, and aren't impacting the game, you aren't playing support properly. Play it properly, and enjoy controlling whether you win or lose bot.

TsugagaMar 25, 20155 votes

If you have more deaths than assists then you're doing something wrong. Supports have a huge impact on the game. Have you ever had a game where your team has no vision at all, the enemy seems to have wards in every bush, and the enemy support is just constantly saving the carries or initiating onto your team? That's what a good support can do. Support is just as capable of carrying a game through support as any other role is by killing.

KougaMar 25, 20154 votes

Really, for supports the only "required" build path is:

Gold generation item (pick 1 of 3) and
Basic Sightward

Beyond that, its still up to you. If anything you are more free to build items you want than most other roles. Do they have a lot of CC on the enemy team? Build a Mikael's. Is your team super squishy? Build an Iron Solari for that sweet, sweet AoE Shield. Because your abilities are generally strong just on their mechanics (Thresh lanterns, 'Raka heals, Sona ults) you actually have more freedom in your build path. Yes, you may not have a full 6 item set unless the game goes long but you can still choose how you want to roll after those two "Support Items"

If you're dying that much, its probably something you or your team is doing.

And having little impact on the game? Are you joking? Thresh, Braum, Sona - they are all about making plays. The Support (or sometimes the Tank) can have the most impact on properly engaging a fight. You call the shots. You rally your teammates to hide in a brush and ambush the enemy - and a lot of times its the support coordinating that. If the carry just dives in 1v5 by themselves a lot of time they'll die. But when Thresh lands a hook on the enemy Vayne, everyone gets ready to rush in.

You, too, can be the Support of your dreams. You just have to embrace your true power.

FHMarshyMar 25, 20154 votes

Lmao support are not supposed to and usually won't have more deaths than assists unless you are bad.

BastionKrossMar 25, 20153 votes

There's plenty of reasons to hate the support role. 80% of League players feel it's an unrewarding role. It's one of the two positions you always seem to wait for in teambuilder (and jungle is slowly getting better). It's the role the last pick sweats about. The announcer doesn't care if you set up that pentakill, she only cares about the carry that took advantage of your hard work.

Akali Holy shit guys, our Graves is 5/0! Is that doublelift in our bot lane?! Graves Hehe, well I am doing really well this game! Leona ...

Some players are just fine not getting any recognition for their efforts, winning the game is enough for them. Most are not of that mindset, however.

S H A Y C 0Mar 25, 20151 votes

https://youtu.be/jGy5ZJ8cSUE

mvargusMar 25, 20153 votes

MOre deaths than assists? How are you playing as support. My 2 most played supports I have a KDA better than 3, and one is Janna. I've had 20 or more assists multiple times as a support and can often finish a game under 4 deaths.

And supports have a huge impact. A good support is going to make sure the ADC can get fed and will go on to save the team in team fights. Look at the ults for many supports.

Braum - big AOE knock up that breaks up a team fight Zyra - big AOE knock up that breaks up a team fight Sona - beamed stun, that can initiate or break up a team fight Soraka - heals everyone on your side, can literally save lives Janna - AOE knock back and heal, great for disengaging from a team fight and cancelling melee ults. Nami - AOE knock up

Use those at the right time and in the right place and you can turn a losing team fight into an Ace for your team.

Now I won't deny that laning phase can be a bit dull. You are spending most of your time guarding the ADC and occasionally heading to the river to drop wards to protect from ganks. But even then a good support is throwing out some poke at the enemy. You can make plays as the support if you know how to play the position and can trust your ADC.

It's stressful, but I find it fun.

Aww KatMar 25, 20152 votes

You shouldn't have more deaths than assists. When i support i usually use Leona and play really aggressive. You can make support fun. :D

Stark6000Mar 25, 20152 votes

I agree with your sentiment but there are some things that aren't correct in your post. Supports can have some significant impact on the game. While it's true, yes, everyone can buy wards most people need to stay in lane or jungle to keep up their gold income. Also, supports typically have great CC that either protect the adc or help initiate fights.

You are correct in that it is quite an unfun position for most people. I find it incredbly boring like adc. Being ward bitch and having difficulty contributing actual damage to fights makes you feel like you don't have much control over the game. Its like oh our mid blew up their adc, our top tanked their whole team and peel for our mid, and what did support do? Oh support CC'd for the adc so he could be hero.

PassionlipMar 25, 20152 votes

I love playing Soraka - when they go all on my team mates and i keep heling, silencing them and adding some damage (a centered Q can do some nice damage on a squishy champ) and you see the enemies cursing me 8D

Raja ChachkiMar 25, 20152 votes

" "will" have on average more deaths than assists." Janna fight me bitches i dun die

The5lackerMar 25, 20152 votes

As a support main, I frequently complete a number of items and swing around 20+ assists in a typical game. It sounds to me like you just don't really get what supporting is all about, or don't pick actually interactive and engaging champions.

I mean, you played Soraka. No offense, but I can't really take you seriously with that revelation.

Only Play DariusMar 25, 20151 votes

No.

S H A Y C 0Mar 25, 20151 votes

If you have more deaths than assists most of the time, then you are doing something fundamentally wrong as a support. And to further make your experience unenjoyable, more deaths than assists mean the enemy laners continue to gain strength and advantage over you and it only gets worse. I am not trying to bring you down and be mean, but it sounds like you need to take a look at how you are playing support, maybe even the champions you are playing and try to find the chinks in your armor so to speak.

AbyssphereMar 25, 20151 votes

I'm pretty sure you know nothing about supporting.

AikidoLawnNinjaMar 25, 20151 votes

"You sign up to be permanently the lowest level, have the least gold, obligated into the same item build path for literally every support in the game."

Part of what qualifies a champion as a "support" is the utility that champion brings to the team with their kit alone (i.e. without items). If a champion needs gold and items to be an effective addition to the team, then that champion should not be played as a support.

"You never finish an item, and "will" have on average more deaths than assists."

Wuh? If you're not finishing items, you're building wrong, and if you have more deaths than assists, you're just playing badly. This is on YOU, not on the support role.

"I feel personally that, support, (at least the supports I tend to pick) have very little impact on the game and it's just generally unfun and quite frankly, unrewarding to me."

Sounds like a YOU problem, rooted in the champs you choose to support with.

"Soraka was one of the few that gave me a real thrill playing, they nerfed her and while I do still play her, she is not nearly as impactful as she used to be."

Agreed. Sorry to hear that a champ you enjoyed is no longer fun for you, but there are still plenty of supports that do similar things. Soraka is a healbot, and unfortunately she's the only dedicated healbot in League, but many other supports offer some sustain. Sona, Taric, Bard, Alistar and Nami all have some way to heal your lane partner. Why not give them a shot if Soraka is no longer fun for you?

Also consider that supporting doesn't always mean "healer". This is not World of Warcraft. Some supports are useful for their damage (Annie, Vel'Koz), and some for their tankiness and CC (Leona, Blitzcrank). Not every support needs a healing ability to be useful.

ConfluxulfnoCMar 26, 20151 votes

Try to learn how to play different support champions with more presence in lane, like sona or leona for example. Both of these champions are good for climbing out of low level elos like bronze and silver. Note: it is very necessary to learn how to play carry roles, because support is not the best way to win games consistently in ranked. If you're just trying to have fun as a support by gaining more gold/assists than average the two champions I just mentioned are great for getting a lot of assists in game, which equates to more gold and support items. Also, your Items should never be the same unless it just happens to work out that way. Obviously you'll want a sightstone every game as a support. Just like a jungler has a jungler's knife every game. Some really good junglers even manage to fit a sightstone into their builds as well. What I am getting at is your item/build should not only work with your champion's kit, but it should also defend against the enemy team's strengths. Pay attention to which champions are carrying on the other team. If you and you're ADC are doing well against their bot lane, but your mid and top laner is getting trashed by a Vladamir (AP) and Katarina (AP), try to rush a locket of the Solari item 3190 . It has mr for you and mr for your teammates in team fights when they are close by. Hopefully this helps, and remember to engage properly. A bad engage can be the difference between a win and a loss. Engages are just that important in League.