Ziggs is trash with the new AP changes and is badly in need of some buffs... (A Level 7 Ziggs)

Colton147··2 votes·871 views

As the title says...

Ziggs is currently sitting at a 48%-51% win rate: http://na.op.gg/champion/ziggs/statistics/mid http://champion.gg/champion/Ziggs/Middle?

As a level 7 Ziggs player, he is trash with the new AP changes and is badly in need of some buffs. He deals little to no damage - pretty much Syndra/Zoe 2.0, where their damage is non-existent.

His win rate will most likely decline even more until something is compensated for the amazing and mechanically intensive, Ziggs.

Q: Bouncing Bomb

Damage increased from 75/120/165/210/255 to 120/165/210/255/300

W: Satchel Charge

Demolition execute increased from 25/27.5/30/32.5/35% to 40% all ranks

E: Hexplosive Minefield

Damage increased from 40/65/90/115/140 to 65/90/115/140/170

New Effect Minions and monsters now take 200% additional damage

R: Mega Inferno Bomb

Damage increased from 200/300/400 to 300/400/500

New Efect Deals bonus true damage to enemies within the epicenter

It's perhaps time to make Ziggs great again and make him viable.

8 Comments

Dark Nephthys2 votes

The new items should be great on him. Now he can just rush item 3285 as his first item and then go into whatever he wants. Before if you wanted to get Luden's you'd have to get it as your 2nd item because Morello was your first item. Now you can just rush into Luden's and still get your CDR, Mana and strong poke. And if you feel that wasn't enough mana, no harm in getting item 3003 as well.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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The new items should be great on him. Now he can just rush item 3285 as his first item and then go into whatever he wants. Before if you wanted to get Luden's you'd have to get it as your 2nd item because Morello was your first item. Now you can just rush into Luden's and still get your CDR, Mana and strong poke. And if you feel that wasn't enough mana, no harm in getting item 3003 as well.

this.. i dont play ziggs anymore but his biggest issue was damage while having mana sustain

nm10101 votes

The only change I'd want is the ult damage increase. Other than that he is fine, in fact I kind of figured the new items would benefit him quite a bit.

rework trundle1 votes

love tap btw

Xion The XIV1 votes

I don't know if M7 should really be set up as you know what is best at this champion. Because I remember at a time Ziggs ADC was a free S. Same with JG ezreal at a time. But I can see this is a troll post. Since this type of thing will see ziggs perma banned in all games.

Khristophoros1 votes

The numbers you're suggesting for Q and R are way too high.

Also, it would be more effective feedback (and lead to more interesting discussion) if you could go into the details about how he lost damage with the item changes.

RainbowIcee1 votes

give it a little time, you just have to adjust how you build the champ and prioritize. With the old item 3165 mid laners practically spammed skills with the 20% CDR + runes and the mana sustain it gave + all that AP. Now you going to have to build AP + mana sutain or AP + utility. I don't think all 3 come in an item off the bat unless is that mana item that you stack with the tear i forgot the game. anyhow i'm not saying is a walk in the park but ziggs is still viable. He craps on turrets and he has a very long range. You can't be spamming so you might want mana and CDR now that you don't have morello

Zone of Endless1 votes

The only buff Ziggs need is revert on Q radius

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