Nerf Zoe.

DemonRain··11 votes·2,158 views

Why Riot? Why release a champion so broken, they make you want to pull your hair out. Her damage, her cooldowns; everything about this champion is fucking broken. Why does her q do 700 damage? Why is her q on a 3-second cooldown? What about her bubble? Why does it launch across a fucking lane? Why is it a trap with the same diameter as the sun? Why Riot? Video Games are supposed to be fun. This isn't fun. I don't know what you were thinking with this champion. I hope you nerf her.

15 Comments

Azadethe4 votes
  1. Q is 90% of her damage, and usually doesn't hit high unless she can get off a really long distance trick.

  2. Q is not on a 3 second cooldown. Its base is between 7.5 and 6.25 seconds.

  3. Her E only has decent range if cast over terrain. Even then, it's dodgy and relies on good team warding to actually hit. Ofc, if you're playing a melee champ vs her, she can hit you with it as she's running. Don't chase her in a line.

  4. She's not broken. 30% win rate, hard to snowball because she's a bad farmer, and hard to use her kit in a game with randomness, adcs who are fed, and long distance nukers. She can get fed if a game gets prolonged, but she sucks overall in a 25 min game.

This is like arguing that Kha Zix is not broken but LB is lol. Kha can kill someone 6 times as reliably as Zoe with no counterplay. Zoe has counterplay.

Oleandervine4 votes

Honestly, she's a super gimmicky champion, and that's it. She relies 100% on Q to do anything, and there are FAR, FAR too many scenarios to allow Q to just miss or be utterly worthless as burst. I honestly believe she was released without enough internal testing (go figure, a CertainlyT champ that wasn't tested enough) because her skill curve is off the charts, moreso than Aurelion Sol, and without perfectly calculating her gimmicky Q+R combo, she can't do shit to anybody. She's terrible in a teamfight, and absolutely terrible without lots of team CC set up.

DemonRain3 votes

90% of her damage and her passive, that does 4000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 damage. Its not fucking balanced.

Azadethe1 votes

Her passive actually doesn't do much damage at all.

RudanuelKant2 votes

Have your seen zoes q animation speed? You cant dodge this

Azadethe2 votes

try playing her and seeing how hard it is to actually hit. Most walls aren't that nice on lining it up, and short distance she can't hit because it's only 800 range.

She's basically designed as an Anti Melee. 90% of the time, even if you manage to sleep over a wall, she isn't actually close enough to proc a Q combo (unless it's a thin wall, and the champ is right on the other side of it, not out like 700 range).

I recently had a game where I was vs a Nasus support, Vi, Zed. etc. Basically a melee range team. I will admit. That was an easy game to land stuff on. There was a couple times where I 2 shot the Nasus (who was AP). The Vi was also an easy target, but on average I only took 40-60% of her life, and they surrendered once I had 952 AP.

But usually, games aren't so kind. You can land everything, and still only take 40-50%, while taking 40% chunks to your own hp yourself while an adc like Cait or Vayne pokes you once while in R. If there is a Xerath , he can make existing painful. A Rengar can just hunt you and kill you before you have a chance to do anything. If Supporting, your adc often ignores the sleep and keeps on farming, while you yourself have a huge wall or a minion wave in your way. She just doesn't have a ton of staying power.

In Mid, she can do great vs certain champs. But, she definitely has foes there too.

Even when she is fed, I often barely don't 1 shot..... target still has 200ish HP. And since her combo relies on R to set up the first hit, she often can't get that last 200, unless she has a line of flashes in front of her.

I can more reliably erase 80% of your HP on Evelynn than I can on Zoe.

LadyRenly3 votes

you could upgrade your boots to make Zoe deal 0 damage

RudanuelKant1 votes

Her q is sonic highspeed

Winnorlose2 votes

Riot did you forget about internal testing before releasing a champ

Zerenza2 votes

But...we did test it, internally and on the PBE. She's completely fine, it's your fault if she kills you lol

RudanuelKant2 votes

Its my fault if her main dmg spell has a sonic high speed with no cooldown with a same fast spell cc to hit your q better? Because of these spells (and her w when she is lucky) you can never punish her for anything. You dont even need much to make her fair: make her q a higher cd or/and make her animation smaller.

Zerenza1 votes

Why don't you punish her in lane, her Q won't do as much damage early on, both her Q and E have high cooldowns early on, if she whiffs her E(which if you half decent at dodging she should, it's range is absurdly short without a wall to pass it through) kill her, she can't do anything about it.

You could also play champs that are hard to kill in lane, like Vladimir or Swain. Safety or Great Lane phase, those will hurt her if your good enough, just play against her some more learn to play against her and boom your on your way to understanding counterplay.

WarlockDD1 votes

Sure is fun tho when i beat ppl as zoe

Winnorlose4 votes

NO STOP Don't encourage this

BubbaV1 votes

didnt you post this like an hour ago

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