Swain rework is friggin' busted

Poppy WebMD·Mar 14, 2018·2 votes·860 views

Spellcasters shouldn't have THAT much cc AND that much damage AND that much survivability, and let's just throw in zhonya's to get an ez ult off with no damage done to swain. He's especially broke in low elo because early game only HIGH burst can really kill him, and no one really has the brain power to learn counters until a year after a rework. And why even implement a soul shard system, then make it crazy easy to fill up all 5 soul shard slots? Might as well make his passive "oh yea btw the end of his ult is gonna give him ez penta lmao gg"

I'm tilted and this noxian librarian lookin dude tilts me even harder than before

3 Comments

RenownedWheat42Mar 14, 20183 votes

What do you mean "THAT much cc"? He's got a very telegraphed slow and root.

Ahri charm. Anivia stun, slow. Annie stun, sometimes AoE. AurelionSol stun. Azir slow, knockback. stun. Cassiopeia grounded. Diana Displacement. Ekko Slow, stun. Elise Slow, stun. Evelynn Charm. Fiddlesticks Fear, silence.

etc.

"THAT much damage"?

Q is conditional damage, W is easy to dodge, E is easy to dodge both instances of, and his ult is dependent on his passive. If you're taking all possible damage from Swain you're either misplaying or getting outplayed.

"THAT much survivability"?

He's a guy who has to get in there and fight to use his kit. He can't sit back and just hit you from the outside of a fight, behind a minion wave. And even then, his survivability usually comes in the form of hitting very telegraphed skills in W and E.

"Zhonya's w/ ult"?

Then he can't move during, so get the fuck outta the AoE.

Learn how to fight him maybe, and stop complaining.

SuperCosmicHoboMar 14, 20181 votes

Shotgun spell Q does zip damage if you aren't close to him. It's literally like fighting a cc Graves but a bit underwhelming since champs that can sustain will most likely out trade Swan Princess here (Unless he ults into a group and has things in control).

RagnaveilMar 14, 20181 votes

Busted? No. Balanced? Yes. Mr. Force Lightning actually takes skill. You can Oom pretty fast with Q if you dont nail enough minion last hits without something like a tear. Your E can get snagged on minions, thus making it easy for Riven to send you to the gray screen after putting on some Nightcore. W cant waveclear (Nor is it effective to do so). The soul shards determine his ult damage, so if he doesn't have all 5 he's gonna miss out on a decent chunk of damage. Oh, and not to mention his E has a massive cooldown. Maybe look in a different direction then you are right now, and you might realize how wrong you are in this post. Oh, and let me give you two hints for countering his ult. 1. MOVE and don't stand in it like a loonie. 2. Buy this here cheap 800 G item item 3123 .
And voila, you counter his ult in the most simplistic way possible.[sg-ezreal]