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Illaoi is not COMPLETELY No Skill And Overpowered.

TheSkullSplitter··8 votes·2,646 views

Hello Summoners,I am an Illaoi main and I love Illaoi's playstyle and abilities. However,everyone who does not play Illaoi tends to think she is entirely no skill. They think that I can just 1v5 whenever and wherever I want to. But the thing is,us Illaoi players may make 1v5ing look easy to other people,but in reality,I need quite a lot of setup time and good timing to successfully get my ult off. Even after I do,there is still the cc and mobility of the other champions to think about. Just because I have successfully gotten my ult off doesn't mean a pentakill,contrary to people's beliefs. Illaoi may be a monster in teamfights,but her laning phase isn't that great. First of all,she has no reliable cc unlinke top laners such as Poppy,Nasus,Gnar,Jax,Shen or even Maokai. This makes trading incredibly difficult as the enemies can easily dodge my harsh lesson's damage as I have no way of reliably slowing or stunning them to ensure the damage. I must also mention that Illaoi has almost non-existent mobility. Harsh Lesson is the only source of mobility Illaoi has apart from her summoner spells. And another point I with to make is: People think Test Of Spirit is a ridiculously overpowered skill,and they complain about how being a vessel for a minute is way to overpowered. The thing is,you must take into account that the casting Test Of Spirit does not reward your mana pool. It also has an incredibly slow animation and is blocked by all enemy units excluding champions. I have often had people complaining that Test Of Spirit is ridiculously over powered in the laning phase,but the things is,if you hide behind your minions,you will not be hit. And another things is: People tend to run AWAY from Illaoi when she rips your spirit out. However,that is the best time to attack Illaoi as she will most likely have wasted harsh lesson to damage the spirit,so you can abuse that to get some damage off of her. Also,the majority of Illaoi players will focus on destroying the spirit,so that is an excellent chance to trade with her without much retaliation from her. Now then,another thing. Harsh Lesson is not exactly ridiculously overpowered. You can clearly see the hitbox of Illaoi's tentacles and they tend to hit slowly without the buff from Leap Of Faith. If you are getting hit by Illaoi's tentacles,just learn how to move. Plus,Harsh Lesson does not have a long range,so If you respect Illaoi,she will not be able to hit you due to her static nature overall as a champion. Another thing is,(this will not happen in higher ELOs) The enemy top laners do not go after my tentacles when I am out of range for harsh lesson. They tend to leave the tentacles there and complain about them when they hit you when they become a vessel. The truth is,when an Illaoi is out of range for harsh lesson,there is little she can do to stop you from destroying her tentacles. If she decides to jump on you,she would have wasted her only engage and will have to fight away from her tentacles,which would give you the upper hand. Lastly,let us talk about her ultimate,Leap Of Faith. I must admit that Leap Of Faith is a naturally powerful ability,but it has it's cons to compensate for it's utility in team fights. First of all,if one is aware enough,it is possible to interrupt Illaoi before she lands,thus completely melting her. And even if there is no way to stop her from finishing the ult,Illaoi will completely melt if you CC her. by the time the CC effects wear off,her tentacles will be close to disappearing,and she will not be able to do as much. Also,people in lower ELOs tend to think her ult is BS as they tend to walk in to your tentacles or stay still,making your job a whole lot easier to kill people. You must also acknowledge the fact that Illaoi is weak without her tentacles and that nerfing her tentacles would ruin her.

I hope that this post has convinced you that Illaoi is not extremely OP and no skill,and I hope that less people will hate her.

P.S. If you have any questions,feel free to comment,I will get back to you ASAP.

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35 Comments

PDE5 Inhib10 votes

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

USE

YOUR

ENTER

KEY

Arakadia1 votes

I almost couldnt read this.

Ralanr1 votes

I didn't. You have more patience then I do.

PDE5 Inhib1 votes

I did not read it.

Just like if someone turned in an application like this, it would get pitched right into the trash can lol.

ChaddyFantome10 votes

Paragraphs

Learn to space them.

Please and thank you.

SolidPooh1 votes

TLDR sorry op :( [zombie-brand-facepalm]

T0XICT0PLANER5 votes

Ok think of me playing any meele champ. You say that her e wont hit me if I stay behind the minions. Ok now let's imagine we both are lvl 3 and dont have any kills/deaths/assists, but now she uses her Q to push the wave.This means I will either leave the minions and give her the Chance to e me or I stay inside the wave and take dmg or I will engage on her and she can e me easily. Now the lane is pushed towards my tower and she has time to land her E when I am at my tower while I dont have any minions or will just go ward while I am busy.

Also why should ur jungler waste time on ganking a champ that will be useful anyways by building tank and he will have fun ganking you when illaoi is 6 and has a lead( geez doublekill)

Furthermore u said that I just have to clear out her tentacles and she loses most of her powers in the lane.But explain me how I am gonna destroy her tentacles as a meele when I dont have a lead against her. By trying this, I will give her good windows to land her E and if she does I am pretty much done, because this means I will either go in and will prob lose the trade cause I need to attack her at her minions and make myself vulnerable to enemy jungle ganks and even if I win somehow why wouldn't she just wait for the next wave and sustain there .

Also even if she loses lane and then hits 6 it is just like she got 3 kills and neutralizes the lane.I mean lets imagine I am meele again and i decide to fight her.she will prob go ult me and will win it and if I am unlucky she is also gonna e me and then I can maybe back off and recall if she wont chase me while I am slowed and she will be faster anyways (because of bc passive or iceborns).

I also dont think she needs any skill, because she can buy 1 dmg item, then go full tank and will still deal way more dmg than u with her ulti in teamfights(scales good through the whole game) plus she doesnt even have to care if she loses the lane vs meele champs because she will always get tanky and still be a threat with her e and ulti.I mean srsly i played so many games winning against dumb illaoi's in lane and then all of a sudden a tf happens where she will just run into everyone and press r like every idiot can and get some kills.

If i would play her I would just try to survive till I am 6 and then destroy everything lol. Sry if this is retarded, but in my opinion this happens everytime and besides playing ranged champs i dont know what to do .

VelvetCrotch2 votes

Than ure sometimes boosted, cause u can kite get better than garen or Darius AND if ure range or have a dash, u can easily go out of her ult range and poke her to death. yw

T0XICT0PLANER3 votes

Sry dunno if i understand u correctly. First of all, i already said that i know that ranged champs are good vs her, but i dont really understand "cause u can kite get better than garen or Darius ". May u explain it in other words please :) ?

And u said that smb with a dash can "easily go out her ult range and poke her to death" So I dunno if I got it right, but f.e. if I am fiora vs her in lane and we both hit lvl 6 already, imagine she lands her e while I try to hit my vitals, then I can run away and take somewhere about 300-400dmg and get a vessel or I could engage on her with my q which should be about a 5sec cd this time.Now she is gonna ult me and will do the first Aa and I am gonna parry it, but now my q is still on about 2secs of cd and so I cant get out "easily" of her ulti. I will probably flash after her second Aa, cause I wont survive another one and now I am low hp, my w is still on a cd for about 15secs and I got a vessel on myself, means if I dont back off, she is gonna dive and kill me easily and see ya fiora :).Plus imagine she already got a Black Cleaver or a Iceborns. Then she will be faster and I will be slower and I cant run away.

MissingKayo1 votes

You're bad. Use your Q or W to dodge or parry the E. Learn to trade.

T0XICT0PLANER2 votes

still better than u man XD

MissingKayo1 votes

Enjoy your delusions.

T0XICT0PLANER1 votes

what is ur main

VelvetCrotch1 votes

Sure. My Phone and its autocorrection. But sometimes I lack a bit at phrasing something correctly cause of missing exercises. So thanks for ure politeness.

I think u already know what I mean. Imo, Illaoi gets even more kited than kite-victims like Garen or Darius. That's all. She has no CC and only a lil gapcloser which she can ONLY use if a target is nearby. (yes, i think she should be allowed to use it like Rivens 3rd Q)

T0XICT0PLANER1 votes

ok thanks. i noticed it too now that i played her :) truly not op

MissingKayo2 votes

Necrobumping a 10 month old thread while still being completely wrong and clueless and bad at the game lmao

Stars Shaper1 votes

To be fair, Illaoi didn't change much in the process nor did Top lane xD

MissingKayo1 votes

Exactly. She's remained balanced this entire time.

Stars Shaper5 votes

Yet extremely annoying to play against. I can easily see why ppl would tear their own eyes out the orbits when they happen to face one as a melee character.

SlavkiToplaner881 votes

her e was nerfed hardly and the toplane meta changed from carry +tank toplaner to full tanks except camille and rumble maybe

VelvetCrotch1 votes

Rumble and his "skillfull" Q-Poke without mana-issues. I totally <3 this champ. Justified toplaner like Quinn and Vayne.

Uhh the love overwhelms me. (...)

T0XICT0PLANER3 votes

Don't even know what Necrobumping means, but man what a cool guy, He comes into a "10month old thread" calls me clueless ,wrong and bad for just asking . Mister I am lvl 20 talking to a plat player, i gave my OPINION on a champ it can't be wrong neither right u Erdoğan + I have been plat so I wouldn't say that I am completely clueless and bad. And man that lmao is a perfect indicator for what a big mouth cool feeling guy you are on the internet. XD Please go rage somewhere else kid, the borders are not here for that :)

MissingKayo1 votes

Plat standards sure have fallen because if you actually think Illaoi is anything other than easy to shit on and easily countered and beaten, you are trash at the game. QQ more. Maybe it'll help you get out of Plat by magically nerfing Illaoi.

T0XICT0PLANER2 votes

Social interactions surely too Seriosly dude fuck off man. U are only destructive not productive i dont need to hear your crying.

MissingKayo1 votes

QQ more about Illaoi. Stay bad.

T0XICT0PLANER1 votes

man i just played her and stomped through the game nothing to QQ here XD

Sahn Uzal3 votes

No skill? Arguably, but I do not really care about that in the slightest. Malphite is the defintion of no skill and I use him to climb when I do play ranked.

Over powered? Absolutely not. Illaoi is the opposite of overpowered. Honestly, She really just sucks as a champion right now, Riot needs to change the way her abilities work atleast a bit for her to work properly. If Riot were to buff her numbers it either won't matter or it will put her over the top and make her overpowered.

I'm not going to read your entire thread because it's just one big wall of text, you didn't really put any white space. White space is important to make a thread clear and readable, you should work on that :)

Illaoi will have some changes to the way her E works this tuesday, lets see how that works out shall we? summoner 31

TheSkullSplitter1 votes

lel thx! [slayer-jinx-wink]

CoolMike1273 votes

I don't ever recall anyone complaining that Illaoi has no skill and is overpowered. No Champion takes zero skill (though some are easier to learn and master than others), but a handful are overpowered, not gonna lie.

Btw, please have a tl;dr or at least divide it into paragraphs when the subject of the topic is changed, it's too much to take in at first glance (just to help get your points across easier).

TheSkullSplitter2 votes

okay okay... lol... i dont post often.. ill use the enter key from now on.... XXDD

Woook3r1 votes

did anyone know quas plays illaoi?

Stars Shaper1 votes

Illaoi is the definition of a stomper, if she gets you your only option is to get away from her zone and continue the fight elsewhere without taking too much damage in the transition.

This is a lot of straightforward power which is usually associated to "no skill" arguments... which are not always right.

As some1 who only payed against Illaoi I learnt really well that if she doesn't set up the kill she can't do much and her heavy and slow hitting Q is her major factor in this (plus the stress induced by her E). An Illaoi that gets ahead also has some real Teamfight potential if her team mates can slow the enmies down. yet, this is countered pretty hard by making the Teamfight drag a few Teemos behind so that Illaoi becomes a really tough brickwall and if kep under minimal control (and CC) she doesn't bring anything to the team allowing you to win the fight.

And A Real Hiero1 votes

Everytime I see Illaoi top I pick the Donger, I ain't dealin' with that bullshit champ.

T0XICT0PLANER1 votes

XDD

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