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S5 Diana Mid Help Please?

TheSkullSplitter··2 votes·1,534 views

Hello My Fellow Summoners,

I have been playing assassins in league for a long time now,my most notable assasin being Katarina. I have played her for 6 months now. I have picked up Yasuo,Ekko and Zed on the way. Now,I love EKko,Yasuo and Zed ,but I have grown quite bored of them. A friend of mine then gifted me Diana and Dark Valkryie Diana for my BirthDay Present. He told me "That i'll have no trouble mastering Diana as she is an assassin" So... I haven't played Diana YET but intend to do so tomorrow. NOw.. I need some tips on playing Diana. So far i've only played "Glass Cannon" Assassin (Katarina,Zed,Akali ETC) so I've never had experience with a slightly bruiserish assassinish fighter. I most desperately need information on how to build her. So far I'm thinking of

item 3157 Zhonya's Hourglass item 3135 Void Staff item 3026 Guardian Angel item 3115 Nashor's Tooth item 1314 Sorcerer's boots (Home Guard) item 3174 Athene's Unholy Grail

Now, For Summoners I think I will take summoner 4 summoner 14 or summoner 12 summoner 4

So.... I like my current build as it gives me a lot of magic penetration,mana regen,attack speed and most importantly 40% cooldown reduction. The Guardian angel and Zhonya's hourglass gives me a lot more survivability,plus having a revive and stasis is good when I jump in a fray and slay carries and then I will most likely need survivability. The Nashor's tooth will give me more ap,plus the beautiful 50% attack speed bonus,and when synergised with Diana's passive,It gives me 80% increase attack speed.

I will take flash and ignite normally,but I will take teleport at times to use it with conjunction to homeguards.

I think that I have the right build for Diana,but I am not really sure. So if there are any Diana mains out there,can you give me a good build that includes

As for the gameplay in general,I will start off with

2 health potions 1 Doran's Ring (I plan on leaving the rest of the money for wards)

and.... I would like to start off with the Nashor's tooth first,but depending on the matchup I will buy according to it. I plan on playing Diana mainly in mid lane.

my plan on itemization based on matchups

Against champs with good pokes (Viktor,Twisted Fate,Malzahar) I will start off with a Zhonya's hourglass then build damage later on

Against High-Mobility Champions (Yasuo,Kassadin,Katarina) I will buy Athene's Unholy Grail to compensate for the mana I will use up chasing or poking them. I will then buy my defensive items.

Against high early game damage champions (Ekko,Azir,Brand) I will start off with the Guardian Angel,then the ability power then lastly the attack speed items

Against squishy burst champions (Zed,Akali,Annie) I will buy Zhonya's Hourglass first,then the Nashor's tooth so I can avoid the burst with the Zhonya's then follow up with Diana's power

So yeahhh..... I'm looking forward to my first game as Diana!

attack speed cooldown reduction armor magic resist ability power magic penetration

thank you for taking your time in to reading this i think to be honest super long post. :D

Hoping to get some good answers!

Also,could you include some Diana tricks with her skills and tips on her and such? I'm a very aggressive mid laner btw XD So.. I need tips on playing her aggressively. Also tips on juking with diana would be nice.

There is also a poll on whether Diana is a viable mid laner in season 5,season 6 watever the season is atm.

Thank you once again,

-TheSkullSplitter

18 Comments

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

She has bad laning like Akali. People run her with teleport, so you don't get zoned. Check pants are dragons tricks with Diana on youtube for advanced mechanics.

Lord Azır1 votes

So the thing I don't like about your build is while it's defensive, it's defensive in the wrong ways.. item 3174 and item 3026 shouldn't even be built on Diana. I'll show you what I usually build on her and explain why. item 3158 item 3001 item 3100 item 3157 item 3089 item 3135. You might be thinking, where's the 40% CDR? Well let's not forget item 3100 now gives 10% CDR, boots give 10% and I run 15% CDR scaling blues. So end game if using the CDR masteries (which you should be this season) you would have the full 40%. item 3001 is basically now the most cost efficent AP item in the game, while nearly every single AP item in the game went up 200-500 gold. This actually went DOWN. You get 70AP, 50MR and reduce every enemy's MR by 20. It's way too gold efficient not to buy. item 3100 with the CDR buff is now I would dare to say core on Diana, the extra 250+ mana it gives is all Diana needs and it gives her movespeed and more burst aswell. You gotta use it properly though. Before jumping in to attack, always charge up your passive so the moment you q+r your first auto will not only get the empowered 3rd auto but also a Lich Bane proc on top of it.

A couple tips I can give you since you don't play the champion.

  1. You don't need to wait for your Q to hit before you R to the enemy. If the Q ends up hitting the target your R will go off cooldown, whether or reached the target with R before the Q hit.
  2. Using the E properly. There's 3 ways to use this ability, first off is using it as a sort of escape. If you have someone chasing you down. The second they get close enough just press it and it will slow them down. The second is using it offensively in a 1v1. Most Diana players will kinda just use it the second they get in range. You wanna wait until they decide to try to run away to use it. The third is using it in team fights. You need item 3157 for this most of the time. You wanna wait till they are all grouped, then get your shield up, Q+R into the middle of them. Then press E to drag them all into a ball (kinda of like Orianna ult does) this will slow all the enemies but you have to make sure you hit item 3157 right after you press E. This will give your team time to follow up with their spells while the enemy is slowed and give your cooldowns time to come back up. Then from there you just try to jump onto the enemy ADC and 1 shot them.

Make sure you don't use your W to farm, you never know when you might need that shield and it uses a ton of mana. Try to never Q+R+R, unless you know you can get out. Instead use Q+R and then wait for Q to come back up then repeat.

TheSkullSplitter1 votes

omg thank you so much for the long response!
i think that i will find this most likely helpful :D

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Lord Azır1 votes

Also build path against AD champs should be something like item 3191 item 3057 item 3158 item 3157 item 3100 item 3001 Against AP item 3001 item 3158 item 3100 item 3157

TheSkullSplitter1 votes

uhh just a quick question:Why item 3057 on an ap champion? I thought sheen was only for ad champions. such as Hecarim Skarner Nasus

and... isn't the item 3100 a risky build for Diana?

Lord Azır1 votes

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uhh just a quick question:Why item 3057 on an ap champion? I thought sheen was only for ad champions. such as Hecarim Skarner Nasus

and... isn't the item 3100 a risky build for Diana?

Short answer no.. Diana aswell as Fizz Ekko are AP fighters that benefit from using autos and love using Sheen. You buy Sheen very early in the game when you actually have decently high base AD stats, it makes a huge difference. item 3057 also gives you all the mana Diana will ever need, 10% CDR and increased burst at the cost of 1050 gold. The main thing you are trying to achieve with Diana is bursting squishys as fast as possible. item 3100 combine with her 3rd auto straight up deletes champions. Let's not forget the 7% movespeed it also gives, letting her be able to chase anyone down or maneuver around team fights.

In your original build you posted you said you were going to build item 3115. While I agree Nashor's is a decent item on Diana, I wouldn't say it's core. If you build it, it gives you no extra movespeed, no mana or mana regen, and makes you more into a split pushing fighter that just wants to just split push for days. Instead of a bursty assassin that combos the third auto with Lich Bane.

When playing a champion like Diana you have to remember, you aren't trying to survive as long as possible. She has no escapes, you can't play her with fear. You have to go in and either kill everyone around you as quick as possible, or you basically die. You need to be as bursty as possible, not tanky with little amounts of AP. Once you get her mechanics down, you'll realize when the time to jump in is right and who to burst down in team fights. If you start building items like item 3026, item 3115 and item 3174 you have little to no AP, which means little to no burst. That's 4 item slots used up (if you include boots) and you only have 140 AP from those 4 items. That leaves you with only 2 items left, you won't be bursting anything with those stats. You won't be able to delete champions in 1 spell rotation. Meaning you will just die over and over every time you jump in. Believe me I've been there done that. While on the other hand if you build item 3001 item 3100 item 3157, you now have 45 armor, 50 magic resist, CDR and mana as well as having 250 AP and extra damage from Lich Bane. Diana's shield scales with AP so the more AP she has the tankier she will become.

AlldaySkandi1 votes

only thing lich bane gives over nashors is as you said "buirsting squishys as fast as possible ",lets face it nashors or lich bane as diana you have no problem bursting a squishy ,nashors is way better because it gives you so much more than just damage - waveclear,shred towers,you can duel tanks due to the fact that you can use your passive more frequintly,lich bane is bad on diana

AlldaySkandi1 votes

third auto with lich bane is way less valuable than being able to get the proc off twice as fast as i said - you can duel tanks and split push like a god

Lord Azır1 votes

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third auto with lich bane is way less valuable than being able to get the proc off twice as fast as i said - you can duel tanks and split push like a god

It's not twice as fast. Nashors doesn't double your attack speed, not even close. It's more of a .3x increase not a 2x. You also realize LGD's Godv, considered the best Diana player in the world doesn't build item 3115. Please stop talking out of your ass.

AlldaySkandi1 votes

lol why so butt hurt ? dude obviously i wasnt being literal when i said twice as fast

Lord Azır1 votes

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lol why so butt hurt ? dude obviously i wasnt being literal when i said twice as fast

Yeah let's think about this for a second what's better 50% attack speed (a 1.3x increase) which hardly makes any difference in a short fight or lich banes proc which at full build will do over 400 extra damage every 1.5 seconds. While also giving you 7% movespeed, 10% CDR and all the mana Diana will ever need to get through the early game.

Lord Azır1 votes

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only thing lich bane gives over nashors is as you said "buirsting squishys as fast as possible ",lets face it nashors or lich bane as diana you have no problem bursting a squishy ,nashors is way better because it gives you so much more than just damage - waveclear,shred towers,you can duel tanks due to the fact that you can use your passive more frequintly,lich bane is bad on diana

No, just no. item 3115 is not "way" better. For tank killing sure I will say it's better than Lich Bane. But as Diana your goal shouldn't be "oh I need to be able to duel the enemy tank". It should be blowing up the priority targets. You lose out on soo much burst with Nashors. Any team that has CC and a brain won't let you just stand there auto attacking their carries. Lich Bane can shred towers just as fast if not faster than Nashors. Don't forget every Lich Bane proc has a cooldown of 1.5 seconds and does just about as much dmg as her passive. So you are doing just about the same if not more damage to towers with lich bane.

AlldaySkandi1 votes

lol as i mentioned ,i never denied lich bane giving more burst ,nashors tooth just allows you to do alot more than lich bane ,lmao chill dude

Lord Azır1 votes

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lol as i mentioned ,i never denied lich bane giving more burst ,nashors tooth just allows you to do alot more than lich bane ,lmao chill dude

Explain to me what it does that lich bane doesn't? Lich Bane is more single target burst and just as good if not better at tower pushing. Literately the only way Nashors if better is if you are trying to just kill champions like Maokai Garen Chogath that take years to kill to the point you are just standing there mindlessly auto attacking, which you shouldn't be in the first place. Other than that Lich Bane is basically always better.

AlldaySkandi1 votes

Diana items are quite simple and never change,check on pro builds and youll pretty much see the same build over and over always rush nashors tooth - core on diana ,dianas passive does 80% ap ,nashors lets you use it more often ,so it gives you great wave clear, and you can shred turrets because the passive works on towers ,you become a very strong split pusher and can basically out duel anyone ,scales well late game because of her passive

after that just go straight ap ludens if your ahead never build a mana item

Lord Azır1 votes

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Diana items are quite simple and never change,check on pro builds and youll pretty much see the same build over and over always rush nashors tooth - core on diana ,dianas passive does 80% ap ,nashors lets you use it more often ,so it gives you great wave clear, and you can shred turrets because the passive works on towers ,you become a very strong split pusher and can basically out duel anyone ,scales well late game because of her passive

after that just go straight ap ludens if your ahead never build a mana item

Blindly copying pro players gets you nowhere, sorry. For example the highest rated Azir player in NA builds item 3027 every single game. Do you see this on your pro builds site? No you don't. There's more than 1 way of building a champion. I've seen from your last 5 games you don't even buy boots. You have 0 credibility because you don't even think boots are worth the gold.

Catastrop1 votes

You don't want Grail or GA on Diana, because that's just wasted slots on a champion like her. item 3001 instead of Grail and item 3089 instead of GA. Nashor's isn't a core on her so you can consider swapping it out for either item 3285/item 3100. Not saying the item is bad, but you can definitely consider getting something other than Nashor's if you're in the lead. Only get it unless your team needs the split pushing power.

As for tricks. Her Q and R travel at the same speed. When you Q and you're sure it will hit, immediately follow up with RRW. This kills of any squishy target before they can even react, seriously it's hilarious.

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