Bring back the days where most matches easily went 45-60 mins every game and it wasn't so snowbally. The game wasn't decided in in the first 10 min of the game back in the good times, what used to decide the game was solid team fights and it would take a few to decide the game not the laning phase. Every game now is decided in laning phase now. League is dead now, this is not league. [sg-soraka]
Snowplosion19 votesSo.. Never? The game average has never been that long. Sorry man.
Flawless Fetus9 votesYou must be relatively new. Lol.
Stillname12 votesYou are just remembering wrong. The middle ground used to be 30-40 minutes with some games going longer and some being shorter.
Just go look up old pro games or try to find old youtube videos of s1, s2 and s3. Although there was a few month long period in season 3 or 4 where the meta was waveclear mages that stalled out the game making the games closer to 35-45 riot decided they didn't like that and nerfed that strat.
Niaphim5 votesYes, 35 minutes used to be the golden standard, but it felt different. If some team managed to win in 25 minutes, I felt outplayed and admired their skill. 30 minutes was about right for a decisive victory without stalling and running around in circles. In s6 and this season I've seen 20-25 minute games left and right without anyone doing anything particularly impressive.
Kaladin Davar3 votesI've played since S2 and game times have never been consistently that long except in bronze.
Flawless Fetus2 votesI guess you're not new. Lol. I came in early s2 as well. I can't speak about bronze, never had the privilege of playing there. I've spent the vast majority of my league career around high plat and mid diamond. 40-60 mins used to be the regular time for a game.
Kaladin Davar2 votesstatistics say otherwise
Flawless Fetus2 votesSend me the stat that says there was never a time where 40-60 mins was the normal game length for high plat/low diamond. You can't find one. I was there. xd
AMYS GRAVE1 voteshttp://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=622510
Nope, in 2011 average game times were ~35 min.
http://www.leaguemath.com/match-duration-analysis/
In the height of the S5 tank meta with notoriously long games game averages in bronze were 36 min, and lower as you go up in rank
Unless you have a source for that 40-60 min average game length i call bullshit. I've been playing for as long as you and i can decisively say you're exaggerating.
Flawless Fetus1 votesI'm not worried about it. Stay wrong.
AMYS GRAVE1 votesBurden of proof is on you. You can downvote me for showing you the truth but it doesn't mean shit unless you can back up your claims.
Flawless Fetus1 votesTalk to the OP. Burden of proof is on him. Again, idgaf if you're wrong. Totally cool with it.
AMYS GRAVE1 votesI provided a source in the OPs stead, which disproves you. Empirical evidence shows you to be wrong, and if you're not going to have a conversation then go away, no one wants you here.
Flawless Fetus1 votesStay wrong, friend.
AMYS GRAVE1 votesGo away, stop bothering me if you're not going to engage in conversation.
Snowplosion2 votesNot really. I started when SKT had first won Worlds. The longest average game length I have seen ever was around 35 minutes.
Flashes2 votesI've once played a 70 minute long game
Not arguing with you just sharing info
I see you saying average game length
Refer A Friend 114 votesYeah, I miss the old League when there was ugly splash arts, more unhealthy champions, League of Black Cleaver, DFG, all that good stuff. Those were the days.
Ok sure but why10 votesI miss the good old days, when Illaoi wasn't a champion, and when no one complained that marksmen were allowed to deal damage. As much.
Scary Door9 votesWhen I started playing in Season One, games usually didn't go to 60 minutes---although they would occasionally, but I will say that only a very few ever went less than 30 minutes. Most of my games averaged around 40 minutes. Laning phase was typically 15 minutes or so (now it's about 7-10 minutes at most), "Mid game" was from 15-30 minutes and then "late game" was 30-45+. Surrenders happened, but they were also pretty rare (maybe about 10% of the time) and even then people would wait until about the 25-30 minute mark to /ff.
In my experience, games started becoming shorter in Season 5, I remember writing posts about it then, but they became much shorter in Seasons 6 and 7. Here in Preseason 8 I have yet to have a Summoner's Rift game go longer than 28 minutes. In fact, my last 10 SR games have gone 18, 22, 20, 19, 22, 28 (27:55 but I rounded up), 21, 23, 27 and 20 minutes respectively. I used to have ARAMs that went longer than that.
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Riot has tried to increase the pacing of games by adding more damage and snowball mechanics---this is essentially indisputable. Dragon now awards buffs that generally favor snowballing (damage to towers, movement speed or pure damage) and few that help to stall out games (bonus regen being about the only thing that MIGHT help to turtle a bit). Baron is even more of a siege buff and, frankly, so is Elder Dragon. Towers are a joke and with ever increasing damage and ways to shred towers even faster there is really no way to logically argue that Riot has not (either intentionally or otherwise) increased game pacing and, thus, decreased the length of games.
I saw a post from Riot that said game length this preseason is down only about a minute-and-a-half, but I have a feeling that there's a fair bit of deviation in there biasing the mean by quite a bit. Furthermore, that data doesn't pass the eye-test. I have noticed a SUBSTANTIAL decrease in game length.
muted team chat7 votesThose games were too long for people who can't sit and dedicate 3+ hours to league. What a bad idea.
Raven Redeemed7 votesI see this sentiment quite often on the boards and I wonder if people remember the downsides of long games. It was frustrating when you got a lead because there was nothing you could do with it because the other team would just turtle. You prayed that the other team did not have a better hyper carry than your team as the game dragged on. On the flip side, it was no fun to turtle either. You sat under tower (because that is all you could do) and watch as the enemy made sure to starve you from as much gold as possible for the next 30 min.
Not saying really snowbally games are fun, but I think there is a good middle ground.
Wráthful6 votesIf league is dead why 10 milions + play each day xD if u dont like it get out stop living in the past.
DNFVixen15 votesIf league is dead why 10 milions + play each day xD if u dont like it get out stop living in the past.
This isn't league anymore.
Thefrostyviking5 votesIt is, it's just missing most of the OP stuff that used to exist.
And instead it has new OP stuff x)
Name one season when you thought the game was balanced and you´ll probably end up downvoted to oblivion by ....pretty much everyone that liked another season.
That's how it seems to work here.
As for my self? I cannot remember a single season since i started at s3 when the game was ever "balanced" and there wasn't some borderline gamebreakingly powerful thing going on.
Most similar thing to what was going on back then was the ardent+tank meta x)
KoggyStyle1 votesS3/4
Thefrostyviking7 votesDid you remember to bring your sacrificial offerings to god
?
Xin,kha6, and renekton were also hella powerful-
TF, darius, elise and were a bit situational but still hella broken-
Zed was also a nightmare, and Fed talon could nearly instakill a slightly fed nasus, through wither.
Some vague memory of Jayce being really powerful at some point back then too.
Scary times.
KoggyStyle2 votesi was speaking more along the lines of most adcs required 30 mins of farming to be useful.
TheHappyReaperz6 votesHaving a 60-minute game every so often is fun. Having a 60-minute game every 3 games, not so fun. I'd like the average game time to be a bit higher than it is now, but not by that much.
KoggyStyle3 votes35 minutes like it used to be?
TheHappyReaperz1 votesAbout that. Although, more important than the actual game time, is that the games are mostly around that time, not a majority of 20 and 50-minute games averaged together.
Yaskamasandwich6 votesGames used to been 30-45 min on average which was good. Sometimes 20 mins and sometimes 60 mins. Both were just as rare. Now we have games decided at 15 mins. Things have gotten worse indeed. If I wanted short games, I'd just play Overwatch. MOBAs are not meant to be short.
Rainfall2 votesgames always used to be 20-30 minutes long. The games were longer but not more enjoyable,people would just open mid or start trolling when ff failed,keeping players for 20 minutes in a lost game is not how any game should work.
PB4UAME2 votesAt release they were an average of 45 minutes. By Season 3 it decreased to 30-45 minute average, which many claim now is the sweet spot. 20-30 minute averages didn't come about 'till season 6.
DNFVixen2 votesAt release they were an average of 45 minutes. By Season 3 it decreased to 30-45 minute average, which many claim now is the sweet spot. 20-30 minute averages didn't come about 'till season 6.
I would be happy with the 30-45 min game times again, I want the pre season 3 times though, if they nerfed gold earned and some other things making it last generally only 30-45 min then I would be DAMN happy. I hate Hate HATE this damn snowbally bullshit they have going, I am ready to just move on and just keep playing maplestory, I been happy playing this game for many many years but they have ruined too many champion and added things that should never have been added. (R.I.P. Nidalee and your beautiful AD scalings.)
Not to mention I miss when Turrets actually DID something and MATTERED.
Elkington2 votesRemember back when Randuin's Omen had HP, CDR, health regen, an MS slow when an opponent aa'd you, AND built out of a gp10 item? Good times. Good defensive itemization is one thing I do miss about old league. I also miss the %aoe dmg reduction, %crit dmg reduction, and the general %dmg reduction in the defense tree.
The Oasis2 votesI would be happy with a 30-35 average if the key to insane snowballs involved at least a few good plays rather than just getting first blood. I shouldn't be able to feel that the game is over (and be right) at 8 minutes in half my games.
DNFVixen2 votesI forgot riot doesn't care about what the players say anymore.
Demon King Maou2 votesEasy fix Riot should do what RUNESCAPE did and make a LEGACY Version SEASON 5 when the game was at its most balanced point and NOT touch the game at all except add a couple of the new items
NOT YOU 
DNFVixen1 votes[{quoted}](name=Demon King Maou,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Y3oo5KKb,comment-id=0015,timestamp=2017-11-25T06:54:51.431+0000)
Easy fix Riot should do what RUNESCAPE did and make a LEGACY Version SEASON 5 when the game was at its most balanced point and NOT touch the game at all except add a couple of the new items
NOT YOU
Now that's an idea I would get behind.
Jeanne fan club1 votesif they last 45-60 minutes then picking any late game champion is an auto win, and players who play early game champions properly will almost never be able to close out games.
Snowball is a necessary mechanic in the game.
Niaphim2 votesDepends on the definition of "late". If gold generation and snowballing are reduced (basically reverse preseason 6 changes), then super late game (6 items hypercarries) can mean 70 minutes instead of 40.
UnknownTerritory1 votesI agree with you man. The old League was very fun indeed. But times change and league is a game that constantly updates. I want to bring the old feeling again but sadly it will never happend.....
DNFVixen2 votesI agree with you man. The old League was very fun indeed. But times change and league is a game that constantly updates. I want to bring the old feeling again but sadly it will never happend.....
If enough of us pressure riot into being back the game time average of 30-35 min before the game is decided then riot will listen.
UnknownTerritory2 votesI really want the old League [sg-soraka]
