Why is rank so much harder now

Dr Lobotomy·Dec 4, 2016·5 votes·1,102 views

Why am I constantly fighting 5 of me and my team is no where near my skill level. Literally just had 6 rank loss in row due to teammates bickering trolling and playing down right terribly with no team work what so ever. Its been a steam roll every match plus having 2 of my losses be 4v5. How is this fair when im the only good player every game who can manage to go positive and carry somewhat. I dont get it im not on a winning spree either ive been on a demotion spree from s3 to s5 and its not getting better at all it makes no sense why im constantly going against a synergy of hardcore playing players while my team doesn't ever care or know simple concepts on how to prevent early game feed. Ive yet to go 10 mins into a game without 5-10+ deaths total on my team from at least every lane. Also why do you get demoted so easily now too what is going on with rank?

12 Comments

SGT Dingle BerryDec 4, 20163 votes

Holy crap this kid isn't lying! Usually I OP.GG and see that they're just feeding as bad as the rest of the so called bad team but his stats aren't nearly as bad as his teammates. sorry brosef! Just keep trying man, you'll eventually rank up.

Dr LobotomyDec 4, 20162 votes

Its been a steam roll every match how does that seem to be random its like wtf i have no reason to lie its not like im asking to be refunded my rank status i just dont understand why i can't get an actual fair match. Steam roll as in 34-10 or worse. Ive literally been top 3 every match been playing since season 1 and im trying to take rank serious now but its hard to when i can't get a break what so ever.

Brain Errör 404Dec 4, 20161 votes

New rank season starts up next week. Doubt there are a lot of try hards in ranks atm. Try again in 2weeks (the first week of ranks is going to be a mess)

Dr LobotomyDec 4, 20161 votes

probably when i should start again cause everyones just messing around seems like thats what im trying to get at its like im in bronze all over again and i was s3 originally then it just was like this im not saying i did spectacular everygame but ive def not succumbed to the skill levels of players im being matched with like just feeding over and over refusing to communicate building badly etc etc ive been actually trying my best if not better to win

Timethief49Dec 4, 20161 votes

you get 4 people of a "random skill level", enemy team gets 5. its unlikely that you derank 5 ranks from just your teammates "skill levels" beeing lower than yours

Quil EvrythingDec 4, 20164 votes

except it isnt random. too often the other side has decent duos. usually abusing the mmr/rank system, with one really high, and one really low, so the stupid system counts them as two "average/low" players.

really, really want a pure "solo" ranked queue. no fair that only challengers get one.

Timethief49Dec 4, 20161 votes

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except it isnt random. too often the other side has decent duos. usually abusing the mmr/rank system, with one really high, and one really low, so the stupid system counts them as two "average/low" players.

really, really want a pure "solo" ranked queue. no fair that only challengers get one.

i wrote you the math, what you think about it is your thing but this is the statistical part. also you probably just soo the mpositiv cases. when you have someone carrying you you realize it less hard than when you have someone bad

Quil EvrythingDec 5, 20161 votes

math is a lovely excercise in THEORY. however, "in theory, theory and practice are the same. in practice, however, they are not".

For example, I just experienced the realness of the weekend feeders. I'm a decent player. but I play solo. On weekends, all the really, really bad players come out. and for whatever reason, I get stuck with the feeders, 90% of the time. Usually not so bad on weekdays. but on the weekend,starting friday afternoon.. the worst possible players get on.

throw all the math around that you want. the thing is, maths and stats are only tools to make theoretical models. Models are supposed to fit what is actually experienced. But when the two dont match.. you THROW OUT models, that dont match REALITY.

The REALITY is, I for one, get matched with feeders, way more than 50% of the time, on weekends, consistently. So there is something wrong with the whole way riot does matching.

In EVERY SINGLE GAME I'm in this weekend, they put some yahoo on my team, that has a "negative" (ie: < 1.0) kda, according to na.op.gg style. Note that that takes kills and assists into account.

In multiple games, I get stuck with some imbecile that has more than 15 deaths in the game.

fif-TEEN.

cmon now.

I wish I could find some to team up with reliably, and play on weekends. unfortunately, seems like the best that happens is that I find one person.. who I end up playing with for ONE day, maybe two.. and then they are never on again when I play.

ugh.

GULAG 4 UDec 5, 20161 votes

You can't blame dynamic QQ anymore

5050BSDec 5, 20161 votes

Flex Rank. People dont take it as seriously as normal Ranked

FioraWillCarryDec 5, 20161 votes

Silver players start getting hyper aggressive at around Silver 4. They always wanna fight so feeding happens very very fast. I've yet to figure out how to carry some of these games.

ZeluloseDec 5, 20161 votes

But players tanking smurfs and duoing with forced low mmr to rank up needs to end. There needs to be an mmr difference limit between players trying to duo.