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Can we rework nunu's ult?

Zavira··3 votes·1,181 views

Cause in this jumpie hard cc meta, as it is, its nearly impossible to use even to a tenth of its power. Its outdated. Even more as jungBunu.

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The Bearded Bard1 votes

Use it like a kat ult, wait til the enemy uses their cc on other people then walk right in and press R. It's also a massive aoe attack speed slow, not all about the damages.

Zavira4 votes

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Use it like a kat ult, wait til the enemy uses their cc on other people then walk right in and press R. It's also a massive aoe attack speed slow, not all about the damages.

Yes, because nunu has a massive gapcloser and his ult does damage at once and nunu can just wait in the back.

Its also only 25%^

The Bearded Bard2 votes

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Yes, because nunu has a massive gapcloser and his ult does damage at once and nunu can just wait in the back.

Its also only 25%^

Massive was the adjective for aoe, meaning that the area of the spell is massive, not the attack speed slow.

He's not supposed to be in the back of a fight, he's a tank. How are you supposed to ice ball their marksman in the back of a fight??

A scenario for you: Nunu W's allied marksman and runs into the thick of the teamfight, reaching enemy marksman and pressing E on him, Nunu then takes pretty significant damage and Q's minion to regain health, while all that happens, Nunu notices that all of the enemy disables have been used on teammates or Nunu himself, Nunu then presses R in the middle of the teamfight because no one has a spell to stop him from doing so.

Zavira4 votes

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, Nunu notices that all of the enemy disables have been used on teammates or Nunu himself, Nunu then presses R in the middle of the teamfight because no one has a spell to stop him from doing so.

Welcome to scenario's that rarely happen

''He's not supposed to be in the back of a fight, he's a tank. How are you supposed to ice ball their marksman in the back of a fight??''

Sarcasm,too hard

KaisadiIIa1 votes

Nunu's R is amazing: even full tank can deal almost 1,000 damage in a large area, plus a powerful movement speed + attack speed slow over the duration. And if they want to interrupt it, they have to waste some CC on your tank, leaving your assassin/carry with more options to survive. The fact that it is too vulnerable to CC is why that R is balanced.

Zavira1 votes

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, leaving your assassin/carry with more options to survive.

Eh no, cause your carry is on the backline and nunu is frontline.

wtb plat+ boards

KaisadiIIa1 votes

No sense comment 11/10 would read again.

Zavira1 votes

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No sense comment 11/10 would read again.

No sense for people at your elo maybe..

KaisadiIIa1 votes

Did you notice that you have the same elo as me?

And don't tell me this is a "smurf". It is just not true.

MikeYeungsSmite1 votes

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Did you notice that you have the same elo as me?

And don't tell me this is a "smurf". It is just not true.

Except it is. Which you would realise from the minor amount of games.

Nunu isnt even tier 2 atm CAUSE of his ult. Even tho 67chrome made some good points, its still incredibly lackluster compared to any other aoe ult.

Insane sustain, counterjungling, adc cockblock, objective control, yet nearly unviable cause no reliable combat ult.

ps: zavira is nearly plat mmr (g5 duo brought it down), you're g5, staph.

KaisadiIIa1 votes

Except it is. Which you would realise from the minor amount of games.

I don't trust you and I don't care.

ps: zavira is nearly plat mmr (g5 duo brought it down), you're g5, staph.

I don't trust you and I don't care.

MikeYeungsSmite1 votes

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I don't trust you and I don't care.

I don't trust you and I don't care.

''post on main''

I dont trust you. K

Tldr: shit i was wrong, wut now

KaisadiIIa1 votes

Platinum V? You are the same elo as me.

There is far more difference between Silver and Bronze V than there is between Silver and Platinum I.

I'm sick of people at Silver thinking that they are gods compared to bronzes, goldies thinking they are gods compared to silvers, and, ofc, platinums thinking they are god compared to golds.

MikeYeungsSmite1 votes

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Platinum V? You are the same elo as me.

There is far more difference between Silver and Bronze V than there is between Silver and Platinum I.

I'm sick of people at Silver thinking that they are gods compared to bronzes, goldies thinking they are gods compared to silvers, and, ofc, platinums thinking they are god compared to golds.

I was plat 2, just staph. And the dif between g5 and plat 5 is giant, believe me as someone who smurfed 3 accounts trou it.

Probs cause you can fluke your way into g5.

KaisadiIIa1 votes

Don't get mad.

Just staph talking about me like you've been stalking me for years to know everything about my skill in this game.

But, if you want, you can keep with your magister dixit and continue say "I'm plat so my words mean more than yours".

MikeYeungsSmite1 votes

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Don't get mad.

Wut?

67chrome1 votes

Cause in this jumpie hard cc meta, as it is, its nearly impossible to use even to a tenth of its power. Its outdated

A 10th of it's power is still a shit ton of power though.

And it's not that hard to use his ult well. Concentrate on using it for the 1300x1300 unavoidable 50% slow. If you utilize it for the massive CC disruption aspect, you'll still get a lot of use out of it even if it's interrupted and does negligible damage.

More often than not I've found catching enemies in a way where the slow is incredibly disruptive tends to reliably lead to 2~3 man 1k+ damage blasts though, because their concern is GTFO rather than lol stun, as I'm forcing them to decide between running away and maybe not getting collapsed on, or stunning me and 100% getting collapsed on by my team.

As tank/support Nunu, eating CC/damage that could have easily been directed at your allies is also pretty useful, and applying a 5-man 50% MS slow can be pretty game-changing in a team-fight. Both of which are well-served by focusing on using the skill for the 50% slow, as optimal usage their requires your team to be there to capitalize on it.

Even as a tank you're also not forced to initiate with Absolute Zero, you can utilize it for a counter-initiation or fallow up a fellow team-mate's innitiation with it. Unlike Kat, you can also waddle around in the middle of a team-fight and punch a few things without needing to cast it ASAP, seeing as Nunu is usually tanky enough to survive some focus, where Kat's defense is basically kill things before they can hurt her.

Use Absolute Zero for the damage and you'll usually derp-out by wasting the skill on one low-HP guy 650 range from you. Considering the skill has a massive AoE and 50% slow attached, that's kind of like building AP Caitlyn for more net damage at the expense of the rest of her kit. As a 3-second charge-up skill, optimal usage just falls much more in the realm of strategy than tactics, focusing more on foresight and reason than reflexes and reaction.

Fueled By Coffee1 votes

Aww man! I was just talking about this to someone yesterday! Nunu is a boss ass jungler, but damn his ulti can jsut be interrupted anymore so easily.

There is typically 2 or 3 champs on the enemy team atleast who can interrupt your ulti the moment it starts up, and you cant just wait for them to waste them. Your team could be wiped by then and half the time the enemy team isnt dumb enough to waste all there interruptions because they wait for nunu.

Banshees doesnt do much for it either.

thinking man1 votes

You use it to force CC or to prevent running.

MikeYeungsSmite1 votes

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You use it to force CC or to prevent running.

League of dashes

Noone would force cc on nunu really

thinking man1 votes

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League of dashes

Noone would force cc on nunu really

I, too, think it's a good idea to tank a 1k base damage Nunu ult.

Also, it's not as easy to save a dash for it as you think since you can't completely get out with most dashes and he can usually force you to dash before ulting.

You're not playing Nunu right if it gets interrupted instantly. Most of my Nunu ults are only interrupted early if I have to interrupt it to catch somebody before they escape.

MikeYeungsSmite1 votes

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I, too, think it's a good idea to tank a 1k base damage Nunu ult.

Its a lot on paper till you realise nunu runs 0 mpen or ap and RARELY if ever gets a full cast.

thinking man1 votes

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Its a lot on paper till you realise nunu runs 0 mpen or ap and RARELY if ever gets a full cast.

I play full tank Nunu and I realize that it's not going to be 1k damage.

It is still going to be around 500 damage on a full tank, which is sizable. He's going to deal a ton of damage and have a ton of disruption if you ignore it since it has the constant slow as well.

His ult's really powerful.

MikeYeungsSmite1 votes

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I play full tank Nunu and I realize that it's not going to be 1k damage.

It is still going to be around 500 damage on a full tank, which is sizable. He's going to deal a ton of damage and have a ton of disruption if you ignore it since it has the constant slow as well.

His ult's really powerful.

A full tank has 70-80% reduce pls.

thinking man1 votes

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A full tank has 70-80% reduce pls.

They'll have 67% if they get 200 defenses but health is better than MR for tanking lots of magic damage so they might not even push that.

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