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Can support ranked players not lose so much LP

Fabzz·10/12/2014, 9:38:48 AM·2 votes·1,669 views

i like to think that supports can carry games, i.e thresh hook on to adc or apc, etc. but i don't understand how i can lose so much LP for one loss and expect to climb the ranks when i get 13 Lp for a win and -18 Lp for loss. like i main support cause no one ever want to play support in my game out of 10 games 2 games someone besides me calls for support. so i play it but i'm frustrated that i main this role, and i go on these massive losing streak yet my stats are good, i ward a lot, i peel for squishes, but how is it fair that under two mins my mid and top die and never recover. and they blame the jungler or mid doesn't call mia and blames bot for feeding their lane opponent. It gets me depressed that i try so hard to support my adc yet it means nothing if the other lanes lose bad. i cant gank mid or top at lvl 2 trust me if i could go top and kill that low hp top lanner for u i would. but i can't. idk i feel like i main a role that means nothing if other lanes lose that isnt bot. and mmr is suffering for it, its just not fair, im always last to join chat cause my cpu is slow so i can never call anything and im not gonna be an asshole and take a role that someone else called.

TLDR: play and main support , cant gank top or mid at 2 mins, lose game. only get 13 Lp for win but -18 Lp for loss

i just feel its unfair and riot doesn't care. but i'm just one person so whatever.

14 Comments

Jesus is Savior10/12/2014, 12:29:03 PM3 votes

Your LP gains/losses aren't out of whack because you main support.

They are out of whack because you're about to get demoted from plat to gold.

Revelatus10/12/2014, 9:53:47 AM2 votes

It's the same for other roles besides maybe the jungler. You can't control what your teammates do. That's why ranked team games that attempt to quantify your skill level based on the performance of your team, rather than your personal performace, seem like a sloooow and agonizing climb.

At least in starcraft I knew that if I lost, I deserved it and if I won, I deserved it. In league, I feel like I can roll the dice and maybe tilt the table a little in one direction thinking it will make a difference.

ChimeiTekinaNasu10/12/2014, 11:54:16 AM1 votes

Also. Your LP gain/loss. I highly doubt that's "because" you main support. I've done support a lot in ranked, but I never have that kind of LP win/loss. I lose like 13 and gain like 27. I do almost every role. I've lost 13-18LP (maybe even 19), and I've gained 17-28LP (maybe even 16). It's completely random at times. I once heard somewhere if you get around 25 or something, then you belong in a higher rank than what you're in, but if you get like 13 and lose 18, then your rank might be your skill level, which would be Platinum V. Platinum rank is actually good though. I'm about halfway to Gold, still working on improving to be Gold. You're Platinum. That's kind of high. Do you think your skill level is actually Diamond level?? There's a big difference between Diamond and Platinum, and I don't think it's easy to be Diamond. Is there something that Diamonds do that you don't do?? Maybe there's something for you to improve on to rank higher. Maybe other game mechanics to learn. For example, attack move click is high elo game mechanic for ADCs, or for anyone who mains ADC for a long time that eventually figure it out.

Long Dong Wukong10/12/2014, 12:27:05 PM1 votes

Supports are every bit as important as every other role, perhaps more-so than top.

Deal with it and git gud

only get 13 Lp for win but -18 Lp for loss

Side note, this means that your MMR is lower than your Elo, so the system is trying to drop you. It's not being unfair to you before you think that, it's because you've lost enough consecutively recently that you're playing against people below your division, so they aren't worth as much for a win and cost more for a loss because you shouldn't lose to them.

It's actually giving you a chance to prove that you should be where you are instead of just dropping you immediately. Riot's little double MMR/Elo system kind of places artificial roadblocks on dropping and climbing, which is usually annoying, but in this particular instance it's actually being nice to you.

Fabzz10/14/2014, 8:09:06 PM1 votes

my mmr is only low cause i main support.

bad manner kid10/14/2014, 9:36:24 PM1 votes

When I'm in the zone as an ADC and I have a potato support that is causing me to get poked/zoned and is playing like an idiot, they deserve the full LP loss just like any other role.

Supports can roam away from the ADC if they are really holding you back, but in the end, you can't solo carry a team as any champion or role if your teammates don't help you at all.