Stop overbuffing Ahri

SKB Bad Bunny·5/4/2018, 4:01:20 PM·1 votes·1,125 views

Everything this champion does is annoying, she has a very decent range wave clear in her Q that also serves as a massive poke tool if you manage to hit it, she is very hard to kill due to having a 3 flash ult on a pretty low cooldown, she puts enough pressure in the lane to alow her to outpush her rival after lvl 6 and just go for the roams. But please, I'm done with Ahri bursting me like shit missing her E.

Most assassins in the game have sort of a combo mechanic that has to be pulled out correctly in order to kill someone, most assassins when theyre not fed, they need to land an entire combo to actually kill someone. Zed is not supposed to kill his enemies without ulti (unless he is already fed), Talon is not supposed to kill his enemies without successfuly proccing his passive, Fizz is not meant to kill his enemies if he misses ulti.

That special mechanic that should allow Ahri to effectively get a kill is her E, and moreso now that she got her E buffed so that enemies hit by it take extra damage from her abilities. So why in God's Earth is she allowed to burst massively missing her best tool for assassination. So far I haven't seen any Evelynn just randomly killing people without effectively hitting her charm. Ahri has a stupid amount of burst on undodgeable abilities such as R and W and Ahri players still claim Ahri to be balanced and difficult to use because she relies on skillshots. Come on, lets be real, she's just too well rounded. Probably her only weakness is that she lacks damage against tanks in the late game, but again, shes more of an assassin than a traditional mage, so she is not supposed to burst beefy targets anyway.

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ValyrianBlade5/4/2018, 5:42:48 PM5 votes

You're full of it if you think Ahri can burst you without her E.

Ahri has some of the lowest AP ratios and base damages in the game. I've been heavily fed as Ahri, hit my E with a single ult charge, all 3 W fires, and both ends of Q, and STILL don't quite 100-0 anyone that's built some health/MR.

So if she misses E? I mean, let's assume she still hits both sides of Q and uses all 3 ult charges, and is incredibly fed. I don't necessarily believe she 100-0s you, but maybe she does. If you're full glass cannon, got no allies shielding/healing you, etc... Then I believe it. That being said: Her ult has an internal cooldown between charges, so it's damage spread out over time and not instant burst, i.e. you have time to respond with damage/cc of your own, or healing/shields. Any other damage dealing champion that's fed can 100-0 a squishy with their ult and 2 basic abilities Ahri should rely on her third ult charge to escape your allies - if she needs all 3 for damage, she's putting herself in a bad spot unless you severely mispositioned.

And again, that's all assuming she's fed. If she's not, she's simply not bursting you.

Ahri is strong early, but suitably falls off late game. She needs picks on the carries late game to be successful, and at reasonable Elo levels the carries will learn to stay in the back line so Ahri can't hit a charm on them (and if she flanks with R, she'll be cc'd and killed before she gets multiple R charges off, so she NEEDS to hit the E to have a chance at bursting you).

I get the feeling that you lost to a fed Ahri and are spreading misinformation. When she's killing you when not fed and not hitting charm, you were likely at half health or so. Big surprise that an ultimate + basic ability + auto attack + ignite + electrocute kills you from half health...

for comparison a Diana could miss Q and just R on you for that kill with only a 15 second cooldown, same with Akali (except she can't miss...), Ekko could kill you with just his E dash and two autos, Zed could kill you with just R and a few autos even if you dodged all shurikens, LeBlanc could miss E, and fizz could miss R -- all in that same situation.

It's really sad to consistently see Ahri get a bad rep for this when she only gets kills for R-W-ignite when she either is insanely fed against glass, or you were low health anyways. It's like people think if Ahri misses charm she should literally do 0 damage. I've seen an Orianna in diamond 5 (on YouTube) whine that "Ahri didn't need to land abilities to get kills" after dying to a 15/4 Ahri who missed charm, when Ahri's allies did 50-60% of Orianna's health before Ahri went in...

Charm is an iconic ability, but a fed Ahri should definitely still be able to kill a target under half health without it...

rtbf2234347215/4/2018, 4:07:34 PM3 votes

Ahri needs a buff!

Buff Ahri with another tail!

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

yeulx5/4/2018, 4:43:52 PM3 votes

Shes not overbuffed.. originally had an assassin type play style in the past.. when Deathfires grasp was around.. they had removed that.. and then she had lost her assassin ability.. in the past ahri actually had the charm amp on her before it was removed as well.. and then they made her into a kiting mage.. after awhile ahri was unsatisfying to play.. if you got ahead you couldnt make and impact with it. shes alot better as a champion now since shes suppose to be the bridge between assassin and mages.. now ahri bursting you while missing her E.. highly unlikely since they changed a few things in her kit to work for her E.. or an auto attack her foxfire will target you