Ivern sucks balls and that's why nobody picks him, he has a tiny loyal fanbase however, and he's in old Yoricks spot, only yorick mains achieve high ass fucking win-rates, is Ivern in LCK? he never even get's banned, if Ivern was great he'd always be banned in LCK and/or picked, stop your crying and focus on real fucking issues
LyingOnLine9 votesThe only place you could possibly say Ivern has a low pickrate is in Bronze.
So...yeah. He's OP. He's clearly OP. I would go so far as to say he's undeniably OP, but idiots are always there to make falsehoods of general statements.
AdanYEva1 votesThe only place you could possibly say Ivern has a low pickrate is in Bronze.
So...yeah. He's OP. He's clearly OP. I would go so far as to say he's undeniably OP, but idiots are always there to make falsehoods of general statements.
lol crybaby who cant ban ivern in champion select
Eedat5 voteslol crybaby who makes this thread literally 5 minutes after mine. Continue throwing a hissy fit when people state the truth about your champ.
Eedat7 voteshahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Slythion7 votesman, you had such a respectable post (even if I didn't agree with it) until you decided to be an ass with
stop your crying and focus on real fucking issues
way to just like...turn the post from one that would be argued over opinion into one where your goal was to make it just one big excuse to personally insult people, feelsbadman
Let's get to what should've been this post's "real fucking issues":
Ivern sucks balls and that's why nobody picks him
good intro, states your opinion and sets yourself up to provide support with both statistics + your take on gameplay interactions
he has a tiny loyal fanbase however, and he's in old Yoricks spot, only yorick mains achieve high ass fucking win-rates
Alright, you didn't provide any actual evidence here but you suggested that statistics show that Ivern is only played by dedicated mains who should have high-win rates because...well...it's their mains. Upon looking into it, I'd have to disagree with you. Despite Champion.gg shows that nearly half of Ivern games are played by people with 200+ games of experience, both champion.gg and leagueofgraphs.com confirm that even new players have a 55%+ win rate on Ivern. He doesn't need "dedicated mains" to be extremely successful with him, which already crumbles part of your argument.
is Ivern in LCK? he never even get's banned, if Ivern was great he'd always be banned in LCK
and here is the classic argument that always rustles my jimmies, when people don't know the difference between professional, coordinated 5-member play and solo queue. There are reasons that some champions are known as "solo queue monsters" while some relatively weaker champions still see pro-play in 90% of games. 
are all great examples of non-S tier solo Q champions, yet heavily favored in pro play regardless.
The difference? Teamwork. Ivern excels at counterjungling and creating pressure through his jungle routes. What do you get in proplay and not solo queue? Heavy, coordinated warding and great response times from your teammates. Both of these shut down Ivern as a champion, which makes it clear to see why a champion like that would not find success in proplay comparatively to other junglers.
420 grams3 votesI definitely don't think he's op, but definitely not weak either. He is a strong pick especially if one invades.
AdanYEva1 votes[{quoted}](name=420 grams,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XM9LUROw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-04-23T03:32:18.553+0000)
I definitely don't think he's op, but definitely not weak either. He is a strong pick especially if one invades.
THEN FUCKING BAN HIM
Glîtchy1 votesI have not seen enough to take a side
A Basic Island1 votesbronze detected