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Ymir1906·11/20/2019, 10:09:14 AM·63 votes·15,967 views

Preseason is upon us and with it comes the new support items. With that, support becomes a dead role.

The freed up early gold is nice, I’m not gonna lie, but it isn’t going to matter when everyone realizes they’ll only be able to complete one item before their gold income falls off a cliff. From then on they’ll be reduced to ward bots as that’s the only thing the’ll be able to afford.

Nobody’s gonna play support anymore. You have no gold, no items, no impact, and no champion diversity. You can either play Pyke, Thresh, Janna, or Soraka. Probably. I dunno. But we will definitely see many, many picks leave the role. No more Swain, Lux, Brand, Morg, Sona, etc.

You can’t even play tanks. With the buffs to lethality items and your nonexistent gold assassins like Pyke or Zed will just shred you. That is, if the enemy Yasuo with 100% crit with two Cloaks doesn’t first. Then you spend the rest of the game doing literally nothing because if you even think about going in the real champs on the enemy team will just step on you. No gold, no tank stats. Worse than useless.

Enchanters will be completely useless. The loss of mana regen and CDR will mean far less up time without sufficient gold income to make up for it. Sure it’ll feel good to rush an early Athene’s but once you have it that only marks the beginning of your rapid decline into irrelevance. Ditto mages. The mana costs of champions like Lux and Morgana will make playing support completely impossible.

Support is returning to being the role you have to tolerate one out of every five games or so. The role where someone has to take one for the team every now and again and be everyone else’s little wardbot. I hope you guys like autofill because it’s about to get much worse.

93 Comments

FURRY V211/20/2019, 10:13:08 AM53 votes

Player Base It is impossible to make support role less enjoyable than it already is. RITO Hold my beer.

floo11/20/2019, 12:34:53 PM17 votes

Good thing is that mage supports are finally being pushed out of botlane. Nobody asked for them, and they actually removed all mana reg. on all of spellthiefs items. The bad part being that enchanters are without mana regen early on. However, manaflow (and potentially presence of mind) can still help them in that regard. Additionally they can just buy into other support items earlier which all grant mana/health regen, because of no more extra costs to the support item.

In conclusion it's a good change. Supports don't get to perma poke in lane due to having no mana issues and frew cdr. Lowered base stats + health on supp items also mean people won't kill each other every single trade anymore.

Zira11/20/2019, 11:58:04 AM8 votes

I don't like the support changes, because I used to win lane early, back early to upgrade, and get wards really early. This change has capped gold at 15, so half the gold amount as the non-upgraded spellthief's, and you have to keep it for longer. I am really not a fan of this change. I guess you save a little bit over time with not being required to back to upgrade, but I think it's a costly price to pay. They should have kept the adjustment of not allowing you to receive the income if you are farming creeps regularly, and keep the rest of it relatively the same.

Also, I didn't even realize that it stopped giving gold completely after the last upgrade. I was looking for the amount in one of my last games, and couldn't find it -- so that's why.

I may be finding a new main role...

I've been a support main since season 2. This is... very, very absolutely awful.

GreenKnight11/20/2019, 10:17:27 AM8 votes

Damn, i enjoyed carrying my iron-tier teammates as Leona (and Senna recently). But, i guess, we will see what the future holds.

Doesn't look pretty.

(And support items icons suuuuuck hard balls)

RebeccaUCuber11/20/2019, 12:33:10 PM6 votes

I main enchanters since...i don't even remember now! Through season 8-9, i could not remain in Plat cos i played too much and challegende the almost complete coinflip games that enchaters are forced to accept. Saving riot's best girlJanna who's the really only solid pick, and sometimes Nami Enchanters have been at their team mercy with 0 impact after lane phase.

Karma Gutted before Worlds again, but also cos toxic Karma top, that now without Klepto i hope she can vanish so support Karma can have some love. Lulu In a weird state. Can be extremely strong in some matchup, completely useless in others. Since enemy just instashot your R'd target anyway. Lux She was a broken enchanter, now she's just another mage in bot. I wish she could be still reliable qith a more defensive build. Morgana Gutted cos HOW DARE YOU COUNTER THE ENGAGERS WE LOVE FOR LCS. I prefer her as enchanter than with the zonya build. You just survive 2 more seconds and enemy just use their mobiltiy to escape your ulti anyway. Senna She could be a good enchanter. Now she just outdmg her adc, bursty as hell and already with good stats. Too good since she's so good in 2 roles. Sona Early game is everything now, and with her mana costs, she will fall to oblivion now. She already has to manage mana correctly to not finish it before this changes. Now with this items and her weak early...she's...what? Soraka One of the most reliable, but cant do anything if enemy has some mobility to kill her or an engager support. All this supports just counter her too much. Taric RIP Yuumi Gutted cos she had to be gutted. Better full ap now, hardly consider her a true enchanter. Still unreliable vs engagers.

And this is the situation about enchanters. Giving them no income means just what you said OP...warding botss, and with even LESS exp!!! Idk what to do with my favourite role right now. Seems just Riot hates enchaters and wardens so much they want them to never be played anymore. And i already imagine the autofill support picking a Zed cos he's probably a better support than others without dmg right now.

Nea10411/20/2019, 4:39:01 PM6 votes

Even if I was pretty sure that they were gonna mess everything up hard once again, just as for S8 and S9, I didn't expect this hard.

Nice start! Please surprise us even more, with all your skills :D

Ηuawei11/20/2019, 8:58:04 PM6 votes

I agree.

This season has destroyed me from the very few games i played.

I thought season 8 was bad to play support because i was 1 shotted but now, everything went to shit.

Have fun getting autofilled as support guys. Because i know that most support mains will either stop queue'ing up for the role or just flat out stop playing this season, like me.

Worst JG Wins11/20/2019, 2:37:15 PM5 votes

WTF are you talking about the support items are being hard buffed. Supports are literally getting 2000 free gold. The buffs to the support role this offseason are actually insane.

I'm literally gonna quit playing JG and swaping to the support role until this shit gets nerfed. It's support probably the strongest role in the game on 9.23

PzyXo11/20/2019, 6:38:24 PM2 votes

No more Swain, Lux, Brand, Morg, Sona

Isn't that a good thing? None love these shits in support

ChaddyFantome11/20/2019, 9:32:32 PM2 votes

See, my biggest issue overall isnt even how strong or weak supports are. Its the simple fact that these changes Re a regression back to making the role boring. It's like we are slowly crawling back to season 3 supports...

Buck Strickland11/21/2019, 2:58:30 AM2 votes

I have 2 requests. Nerf Assassins and Nerf the hell out of ADC champs so nobody even plays them. TY.

MikeJ122O11/20/2019, 11:27:03 AM1 votes

I've played like 5 pbe games as Sona support and it didn't feel worse than S9. I don't have to back just to upgrade my Spellthief's to Frostfang and I can stay in lane longer. The mana regen was useless because I build Archangel's Staff first item and it gives 20% CDR.

I guarantee that Autofill will still be Jungle/Bot