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fƒ154 votes

to be fair, when you have 4 champions giving you movement speed buffs, when your team is basically funneling half the team gold onto one champion, and its late game with hecarim level 17 and all his speed/assassin items to synergize with his teammates and passive, he should be able to one shot a champion who has not built any resistances or health.

GodlyBane1 votes

that doesnt excuse a no counterplay one shot

Weensw1 votes

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that doesnt excuse a no counterplay one shot

Counter play makes players feel bad, so they should be removed. One shotting is what everybody wants to see. It should be made easier, and you need to prevent ability to counter play. Otherwise, it would be boring.

wolvius1 votes

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that doesnt excuse a no counterplay one shot

Counterplay you say let me just dodge yasous tornado, oh no someone got hit by anivias wall and yasou ulted them. Let me just forget about half my armour as a tank and watch as I die the same speed as an ashe in melee range of eve. Sometimes things get to a point where there is no counterplay, a hecarim with damage items,>1000 movement speed and double movement speed to ad is one of them.

TheSingularity2 votes

Anivia Azir Bard Cassiopeia Fiddlesticks Galio Gragas Heimerdinger JarvanIV Jax Nautilus Maokai Malphite Lulu Renekton Singed Vi Volibear Taric Teemo Malzahar Veigar to mention a few

Basically any1 with strong, reliable hard CC. Fiddle would b hilarious as hec runs away at full speed

Guzergus2 votes

Stop bitching about having magical counterplay for everything. Having resistances is your counterplay. Not allowing the enemy team to funnel heca like crazy is your counterplay.

Put it the other way. Imagine yourself being 15/2 and a couple of levels ahead of the enemy. Would it feel good to still get screwed 1vs1? Most likely it wouldn't. A 15/2 champion is bound to kill everything 1x1 and will probably win the game unless they get caught and cc'd.

invisiblecat11 votes

https://youtu.be/wYY5gDVdaxY

I'll just leave this here

Weensw1 votes

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https://youtu.be/wYY5gDVdaxY

I'll just leave this here

See how cool that is? Why would you want to make counterplay? If you can erase someone like that, it makes you, your teammates, friends, people who are watching you play feel good. It simplifies things. If you can't do that to a tank, what's the point? If you can't one shot someone because they are tanky or too skilled, it creates frustration. We want players to enjoy the game, and have fun. If players have to outplay each other, it creates unnecessary complexity. To put it simple, if you need to take a few hits to kill someone, that is not cool, in order to look cool, one needs to be able to one shot anyone. And that should be the goal we should be aiming for.

Douglas Funnie1 votes

Please, tell me I've been wooshed by this statement.

Weensw1 votes

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Please, tell me I've been wooshed by this statement.

I've grown frustrated of complaining about Riot's problems all the time that I've decided to fully embrace it.

rawiazam11 votes

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https://youtu.be/wYY5gDVdaxY

I'll just leave this here

faster and easier :)

RavenMagus1 votes

This is a ridiculous edge case of a whole team working to fuel a single super fed Hecarim.

Instead of showing clips of a full damage full build Hecarim running people down and 1-shotting them, you should show clips of an average early game Hecarim with 1 item running people down and 2-shotting them. Which does happen still.

Douglas Funnie1 votes

Bro, all you have to do is like dodge the damage, dude. I mean it's like so easy to counter, man. Just one shot them first, guy.

GodlyBane1 votes

OH RIGHT i forgot thats what counterplay means now, my bad.

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