Wow Riot, you butcher Shaco and leave lee, hec, vi, kha untouched...

Sherlock Clones·12/14/2016, 7:28:51 AM·74 votes·5,026 views

I can't even fathom this,

"Shaco’s burst damage is too high - especially AP Shaco's. It’s one thing to have a high-damage combo, but Shaco’s ability to murder from stealth doesn’t give opponents enough time to react."

Um Im sorry RENGAR?? Do i even need to go over the laughable Nerf you gave to him compared to Shaco. You don't even touch Kha, Vi, Hec, or Lee who are 100% more played and are more cancerous to the community then Shaco. What makes things worse, you don't repsond to a single thread about Shaco, but heaven forbid someone doesn't get an answer about lucian buffs because you hop right on that....

104 Comments

A Basic Island12/14/2016, 7:53:11 AM25 votes

i laughed when i saw rengar is losing a whopping 25 damage in his kit

meanwhile shaco is losing 25% ap, 10% ad, and 200 damage on his ult

like... how in the fuck does that even make sense

rengo ban rate? closer to infinite than 0

shaco? idk, but i dont see him banned that often, once ina blue moon would i

Dracocrash12/14/2016, 12:02:56 PM8 votes

53% winrate on ap shaco. Deserved nerfs. Sorry, but your freelo is gone now.

Ulquiorra99512/14/2016, 1:25:58 PM7 votes

"Shaco’s burst damage is too high - especially AP Shaco's. It’s one thing to have a high-damage combo, but Shaco’s ability to murder from stealth doesn’t give opponents enough time to react."

-proceeds to further nerf Shaco's AD scaling despite AP Shaco being the dominant build -also takes off 1/3rd of his ultimate's telegraphed and delayed damage which has zero effect on his ability to murder from stealth.

I beleive they were like "You know, we could just nerf what is problematic about AP Shaco, but we could also throw additional few unnecessary nerfs". At this point Riot is just telling Shaco players "Fuck you, we don't want you to play Shaco. Go play Lee or something like that."

GULAG 4 U12/14/2016, 9:22:05 PM5 votes

Hahaha. Shaco has a 55% winrate. Kha'zix doesn't. Heca got nerfed with COC. so did lee and vi. And lee is getting nerfed again.

And no, kha'zix is not as cancerous as shaco.

Grizzlpaw12/14/2016, 6:47:58 PM4 votes

Shaco was actually secret OP for a while.

Not as bad as some other champions cough Rengar cough Vayne cough Kha.

He did deserve some nerfs, but not to this extent

Chalizard12/14/2016, 7:45:51 AM4 votes

Nerf to rengar? He is the most op champion right now I have seen since Old kassadin I guess. I think current meta is the most fcked up meta since long time.

Harvey Rabbit12/14/2016, 2:11:51 PM4 votes

Dumpstered worse than Kog'maw, wow. Rito at their best. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Karn Bishop12/14/2016, 6:38:04 PM4 votes

While i am usually all about good riot hate, AP shaco was definitely too strong for what he did and he indeed needed some nerfs, also them fixing the necklace scaling off of total AD to just bonus ad for rengar made him fightable if he chooses not to commit with an empowered Q thus allowing for dodge potential.

Hecarim does need some small changes yes, vi is fine and her main issue was with CoC being too strong in general so don't punish her for the masterys mistakes.

Kha is strong but i also get the feeling that i can choose when and where he is strong in general and have the possibility of turning the trade around which is to me says he is fine.

Lee is also getting changes already so i am confused as to why you are mentioning him.

Kr1sys12/14/2016, 4:47:59 PM3 votes

http://imgur.com/a/iJSoc

PiVoRx12/14/2016, 12:35:57 PM3 votes

Welcome to the bench of unjustified nerfs MasterYi XinZhao Kindred Shaco

Wyrmblade12/14/2016, 5:21:24 PM3 votes

Meanwhile Ahri has had similar win rates with higher play rates for several patches in a row.

Phyuq Yiu12/14/2016, 12:37:42 PM2 votes

Riot loves their Lee Yas and Syndra mains. They must be big spenders.

KoKoboto12/14/2016, 6:29:23 PM2 votes

Rito themselves made AP Shaco the only decent way to pull him off and now they nerf AP Shaco LOL

serenity712/14/2016, 4:45:51 PM2 votes

I hate Shaco but he wasn't even that strong before the nerfs. Nothing compared to what Rengar and Lee are capable of.

PermabannedGaren12/15/2016, 12:06:06 AM2 votes

You'd have to be a complete fucking idiot to deny that Shaco is incredibly overpowered right now, and to think that Lee Sin, Hecarim, Vi, or Kha are as strong.

Hecarim is the only one that comes close to how obnoxious he is, and they haven't nerfed him yet because they wanted to see how he performs after the nerfing of Courage of the Colossus, rather than nerfing his mastery and then overnerfing the champion.

Sherlock Clones12/14/2016, 4:07:31 PM2 votes

Here's an idea, since riot comments on every other thread about every other champion, maybe one of them can actually respond to the many posts about shaco mains complaining about shaco....

Unlucky4712/14/2016, 6:43:36 PM1 votes

To be fair, shacos boxes take half your health while your feared away from them and that's without building ap. To take half of someones health without being near them is kinda bullshit.

Zedex12/14/2016, 5:01:34 PM1 votes

I love how they're buffing Lucian. I'm pretty sure its a two birds with one stone scenario. Jhins strong right now, but arguably wasn't that strong when Lucian was actually pretty strong. My theory is that Lucian counters Jhin pretty hard in the early phase, and as such since his nerf, Jhins rose in power. Riot doesn't want to nerf their newest ADC i'm assuming(the game is designed around that role) so instead they're going to buff one of his more popular counters that (apparently) isn't in a good spot anymore. I'm just waiting for more Lucian FoTM, but at least it'll slow Jhin down until they nerf him.