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Whats the point of Elise's Rappel getting special bonuses?

Tormentula·7/31/2018, 3:01:13 AM·3 votes·1,489 views

" Upon landing, Elise's Spider Queen bonuses are increased for 5 seconds."

SPIDER EFFECTS INCREASE: 40 / 50 / 70 / 85 / 100%

(her spider form autos do and heal more.)

Can this like.. be moved to skittering frenzy or removed entirely so she can have power budgetted elsewhere? You're never going to use rappel for "combat bonuses". Its too long of a CD to waste in the jungle on camps, and unnecessary given how healthy she can clear without it.

You're never going to EQW switch form Q, then rappel W onto somebody, because either those bonuses don't matter or instead rappel is wasted so you miss out on chasing, gap closing, and dodging/surviving abilities, so its not really something you intentionally will think to rappel for, and I can't say, as a 2 million MP elise player, that i've ever used rappel for "combat amps" intentionally, except for the extremely rare occasion of getting greedy for camps while low to get better healing.

Hell if you guys toned this effect down by even half those values and moved it to W, that would be amazing. Add consistency to the effect so its utilized, then you can balance it out however you want.. but having it in rappel is kinda just underutilized power budget.

16 Comments

Super Galaxy7/31/2018, 4:13:35 PM3 votes

From what I've noticed (and I'm probably wrong), Riot wants these types of mobility/untargetability moves like her Rappel to have some sort of use offensively so you can expect an enemy to use them against you rather than hold onto it to get away.

Examples of this include Elise's Rappel (E), Fizz's Playful/Trickster (E), Ahri's Spirit Rush (R), Vayne's Tumble (Q), etc. etc.

Unstoppable Monk7/31/2018, 10:01:38 AM2 votes

instead of doubling effects how about just doubling the amount of spiders

Pale Mask7/31/2018, 4:30:02 AM1 votes

What was their reason for adding the effect in the first place?

Rappel's never used for its offensive bonus anyway.

KoKoboto7/31/2018, 3:46:32 AM1 votes

I go W->E->Q max order as Elise to make use out of rappel. They gave her these changes tho cause they took out power from her in the past or something. The usage of this mechanic is more nuanced than it seems because you only get it if you cast E on an enemy, you can't self-cast and land to get the benefit.

Beatrice falls7/31/2018, 10:31:30 AM1 votes

I used to play Elise a lot and literally never noticed this lmao

ZephyrDrake7/31/2018, 5:16:29 AM1 votes

even if they remove that do you really think it'll give them much room to do anything worthwhile?

COBRA C0MM4NDER7/31/2018, 4:21:32 AM1 votes

Yer a fool b'y. That's not only an escape, but one of the best ways to dive in like a ninja and put the freak on em! (remember...a lot of people tend to freeze when a spider dives them or becomes REALLY close...even if it just a game)