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Give all spellvamp and lifesteal the Morgana passive treatment.

Guttler·12/10/2017, 1:21:34 AM·3 votes·644 views

Morganas new passive only heals her when she damages champions, large minions, or large monsters.

Do this for all champions with spellcamp and lifesteal. There is a massive number of champions that use their absolutly absurd amount of healing in their kits to stay healthy simply from last hitting minions, they just heal off the minions and don't engage the enemy laner at all unless they have a overwhelming HP advantage from their selfhealing.

Just look at champions llike , they all basically have the same pettern of use our crazy self healing to stay at full HP just by using their healing skills on minions. Give them the Morgana treatment to remove their ability to passively sustain in lane and force them to actually fight they opponents.

Heck do it for all lifesteal from items. No need for an ADC at 50 HP to walk into a jungle find one camp and go up to full HP in two auto attacks.

5 Comments

vgamedude12/10/2017, 1:33:37 AM2 votes

For some champs it's apart of their identity. Like Vladimir. I'd hate to see him lose that.

ZephyrDrake12/10/2017, 2:13:33 AM2 votes

yeah because Morgana and those champions have so much in common that the same change would actually work

EcchiOtakuTM12/10/2017, 2:09:04 AM1 votes

Cho'gath actually fits seeing as how he has to finish off the units himself.

Unlike a certain king who can just be near killed units...

Although if such a thing were to happen, they better increase the value of their heals if they get gutted by the change. I'm all for the change, but if the champs are weaker you better not complain when they get buffed for it either. For example cho'gath if he got changed where it no longer applies to small lane winions or camps now it's increased the value for when it does proc, denying him the cannon is more valid of a strategy but it'll heal and restore mana for about 3 winion waves additional.

Seems like it'd be better to try and deny him normal winions vs trying to deny the guy with 2 ranged waveclearing tools one cannon winion. (Although this is a major nerf to SoloRenektonOnly seeing as how he misses cannons himself lol)

Titanium7012/10/2017, 2:12:00 AM1 votes

Except...

Heck do it for all lifesteal from items. No need for an ADC at 50 HP to walk into a jungle find one camp and go up to full HP in two auto attacks.

that wouldn't change in the slightest.

By that logic - the ADC would even need just ONE AA since all his LS would be doubled agains a large monster. =P

But yeah - yure're basicly right. Making lifesteal a little more interactive would be a good idea. ^^

Häxel12/11/2017, 6:47:37 AM1 votes

the change for morgana so it not heals anymore on small minions was amde so they could change morgana away from spellvamp. Small reminder spellvamp is a stat that heals you for a % of the damage dealt by your spells, but aoe damage healing was reduced by 1/3 of that %. And Morgana W and R are aoe dmg. Only q is single target. So especialy for w to heal more on champions but not being op on the lane riot had to remove that. They also could have maybe let the spellvamp but letting ult be healed by 3 times of it (so it is basicly a full % spellvamp). But than Morgana would have not be able to jungle but would be a better Swain on lane cause she has no big manaproblems, waveclear, lanesustain and teamfightsustain. How it now works is that she got her SIMPLE lanesustain remove but if you do a qw combo on the ennemy succesfuly or on a canonminion you can sustain aswell. But morgana just got better in Teamfight and her laning is now more skillbased cause she just can't anymore sustain threw putting just w on the minionwave. And she can jungle now.

But what you want from above listed, non spellvamp champions (leesin si the only left champion who has actual spellvamp) is ridiculous. Nasus for example needs to farm his q to get stronger. Enemys stop that by trying to force him out of lane or to kill him. Nasus can try to holda gaisnt that attempt by his Passive Sustain. If it would no longer be able to stack on minions he would become a 28% winratechampion cause he would just get forced out of lane. With no Sustain he would not be able to stacka dn he can't trade early with nearly no stacks. Akali is the same. She needs the passive to go threw her first 6 levels. She already has a hard time before reaching lv 6 but makign her passive heal just on 6 would her make total useless. Vladimir/aatrox7warwick(why you forgot the alst 2?) entire kits are on sustaining threw minions. Not everyone needs to be a Morgana/Fiora who can only heal threw particulary enemys.