Any other ADC's hate Karma Support?

Boomer Blitz··3 votes·958 views

I main adc; everytime I get Karma sup I never really feel that its very useful and oftentimes they feed as well. Why not just pick Sona if you want poke? She has heals too...

Recently I had one pick Karma support into a Blitzcrank and she proceeded to give up first blood.

Can...we...just...stop? Don't do this to your adc. Feel free to defend your Karma support here otherwise and explain to me why it's better than other supports with poke, sustain and/or more reliable cc.

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Karbuncle3 votes

She is in fact bad but she isn't horrible so people still defend her position as a support. Her poke isn't better than other mages that go bot like vel'koz,her tether basically never goes off,she doesn't have hard CC so she can't deal with an assassin jumping on your adc as well as others,her shield only lasts 4 seconds and just a small speed boost,the shield changes they're making aren't even good with the final numbers,yes they're loweringmana and cooldown (at later levels) but her shield is so undertuned when you compare it to every other supports shield. Her passive is bs that should be on her ult when Lux and Lulu have damage passives So really her strengths aren't really what makes her good isn't something a champ can do better. Her poke doesn't go past minions and her R+Q basically never goes off both times on a target. Her tether is the worst in the game and basically never snares OR if you are in range to snare you're usually taking too much damage Her shield is so mediocre when you compare it to Lulus when it lasts 2 seconds longer, gives your adc magic damage,and has a damage option that gives vision. R+Q is strong but rarely does full damage R+W is a good heal but it does that cause it doesn't do something useful like stun,knock up,polymorph. R+E is just a bad version of actives other supports buy along with their innate hard cc.

Mandang01 votes

I hate laning against Karma, but I take comfort in the fact that she sucks in teamfights.

Drunk Rummate1 votes

I adore people who play Karma and Zyra support. It's nice having someone in my lane pick a champion that isn't Thresh, Blitzcrank, Nami, or Leona. Why? Because it means that they've actually dedicated enough time to learning a support that isn't meta. And they probably know what they're doing a hell of a lot more than that person who picked thresh because they had to support this game.

Boomer Blitz1 votes

Maybe I've just had back luck with my Karma supports; yea you can say I suck or am not the best fine but I just legitimately don't see how its better than a lot of the more standard supports.

Especially considering you are not going to be getting that much gold for damage and I don't see how she has more utility than the supports you named. Poke should be only one aspect of a good support IMO.

GuardDX1 votes

It only bugs me when she fail pokes and gets out traded, then it's a bad pick.

Boomer Blitz1 votes

Yea you pretty much summed up how i feel. I'm not saying that she can't work but every time I get one that performs poorly I think of all the ways in which their are supports who have poke but more utility like reliable sustain/cc.

NoMonku1 votes

Karma support is a support that can go sightstone then just go AP. Her base values hurt so she doesn't need too much AP to actually do damage. I personally hate her being picked, but I see it as a "sighs I have to support" pick so can't do much about it. That's why I pick bard :).

DrNova1 votes

I disagree. I pretty much exclusivley Karma sup, and if my ADC is even decent at their role we are winning lane.

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