Shaco is garbage now

DJBlackVoice·6/27/2019, 11:03:22 AM·3 votes·1,238 views

E deals 0 dmg and unless you have 10+ kills in first 7 minutes you wont deal even 50% of dmg of all other assasins in this game.

We dont want get a full rework, just start by giving E a sense, because now its just a waste of mana.

And pls, if ur under plat division dont try post something like "bUt ShAcO is GoOd" because is good only vs low iq people atm, literaly unplayable

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PopcornBunni6/27/2019, 11:14:14 AM3 votes

Khazix Udyr Fiddlesticks Rengar Warwick Poppy Nocturne Shyvana Skarner MonkeyKing jg all in much worse positions than Shaco. Skarner especially. A champion played exclusively by one tricks and he can't even get 50% WR.

I want to know who sent this wave of "bUFf ShAcO" spammers.

L Psy Kongroo6/27/2019, 2:33:34 PM2 votes

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We dont want get a full rework

Except he needs a full rework, absolutely and without question. Trying to balance his current kit is impossible, not only because it's extremely dated, but because there's far too little mechanical skill expression for Shaco players and far too little counterplay for enemies. Yeah there are a few neat tricks you can do, but with the way his abilities work, their design makes for very linear gameplay, especially for AD assassin Shaco. It's basically just "Q into a fight, autoattack once, press E, and hope the enemy is dead because if they're not you're fucked". This is how every fight goes for AD Shaco; every single one, ever. AP Shaco at least has box tactics, but even then its success relies more on the enemy's stupidity rather than the Shaco player's skill, which creates a negative experience for both parties: the Shaco player feeling unsatisfied, and the enemy feeling frustrated.

Thingamajig6/27/2019, 11:08:42 AM2 votes

im not under plat division and i can tell you that there are far worse champions in the game than shaco

shaco scales with game knowledge the more you understand the game the better you are with him

Gummycat818/10/2019, 2:26:16 AM1 votes

The problem with shaco is that he has no scaling he can’t kill anyone in late game unless he get 10 kills in 10 min I know because I play shaco and it’s not better that they nerfed dark harvest also his q has a long cool down same with his w there both double digets and almost every bad jg is rather going to get fixed has been fixed or is getting buffs so just give him scaling

Ahri Baka6/27/2019, 12:22:48 PM1 votes

Just because he has an outdated ability doesn't mean he is garbage Look at Ahri Her W is much more useless than his E but she is still fine

boricCentaur16/27/2019, 12:19:44 PM1 votes

Are you trolling the e has good scaling and is a good ganking tool due to the low cooldown and the slow.

If you want to see a ability that does nothing wukong q.

Like if you compare the two abilities shaco is e just better.

5kcheesesticks6/27/2019, 2:25:41 PM1 votes

People who think shaco is in a good place atm have absolute no idea what they're talking about.

It's like a mechanic trying to teach a doctor how to identify a tumor. Just because you see 1 good shaco every blue moon dominate in your silver ranked game doesn't mean shaco is actually good.

Ive rarely seen a good game changing Shaco but i see a million game changing udyrs. My point is, being good at shaco takes extensive amounts of experience and work, while other champs you can basically learn and dominate within a few days.

Playing Shaco is unforgiving. You either do well, gank early, get kills or you do exremely bad, fall off, become useless to the team.