Lets Fix Something, Together (PS Trigger warning for Yasuo Mains)

FlowDartX·Mar 12, 2018·1 votes·342 views

Yasuo is a little too curb stompy when ahead in lane and has a pretty well defined role(s)

However, the issue may be not in his wind wall or damage in general, maybe its the ease of which he can wave clear and look for opportunities to get in to get your guaranteed first blood in the lane, What I propose is a change to his Q which will punish him (Like many mages are) for shooting his 3rd Q down through minions and having to be safe about play, when he is meant to be a high risk high reward.

My change is as proposed, simply just

On the third Q Yasuo's Whirlwind loses 6%, 5.5%, 5%, 4%, 3.5% (Per point in Q) damage per each enemy unit the whirlwind knocks up.
If he is tested and he lacks damage this way, you could incentivise the player for risking his flow shield by giving him a damage boost cutting the damage reduction per each enemy hit the whirlwind knocks up in half, since he is already either being poked or is currently in battle.

Don't Cry Yasuo Mains [sg-ahri-2]

8 Comments

KythersMar 12, 20182 votes

the only thing yasuo curbstomps is my elo when my team picks it

FlowDartXMar 12, 20181 votes

Ayyyyyyyyyyyyy, its not my fault Bronzies think they're good at him.

MorganFreemanBotMar 12, 20182 votes

The irony here: You're throwing out 'don't cry Yasuo mains' as troll bait.. RIght after a post where you're crying about a champion who's currently weak and suggesting he endure further nerfs.

Yasuo currently sits at a sub 50% winrate - after receiving some noticeable buffs - in all roles and hasn't been a noticeable factor for pro play in years.

What does "a little too curb stompy when ahead in lane" even mean? Literally everything is curb stompy when ahead in lane. Fed champions are always OP, so the solution is to not feed.

"This champion isn't great but I don't like them, how about we Olaf / Eve them?" is not a good argument.

FlowDartXMar 12, 20181 votes

Hes at a 50% winrate because he still has a high ban rate, this is to help alleviate that, not the fact that the champion is hot garbage because hot garbage play him. And yes there is a difference between being ahead in lane and being able to be beaten and not being able to be beaten because your items are cheap and give you efficient stats. And I forgot that the meta does not fit him at all.

And the Irony is, Yasuo isn't "Currently weak" sure, he may not be upwards of 50+ win-rate but hes definitely not bad. Don't just look at stats please sweetie. [sg-soraka]

MorganFreemanBotMar 12, 20181 votes

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Hes at a 50% winrate because he still has a high ban rate, this is to help alleviate that, not the fact that the champion is hot garbage because hot garbage play him. And yes there is a difference between being ahead in lane and being able to be beaten and not being able to be beaten because your items are cheap and give you efficient stats. And I forgot that the meta does not fit him at all.

And the Irony is, Yasuo isn't "Currently weak" sure, he may not be upwards of 50+ win-rate but hes definitely not bad. Don't just look at stats please sweetie. [sg-soraka]

"Please don't look at numbers and disagree with me, just agree based on your emotions and irrational hatred!"

H'okay there buddy. That's great logic.

Yasuo has a high ban rate.

Funny thing about that though; his banrate scales inversely with ranking. The higher up the totem pole you go (I.E. silver to gold, gold to plat, ect) the less Yasuo is banned.. And the less he's picked. There's actually another very well known champion who has the same effects.

Darius.

Darius is banned heavily in bronze and silver, moderately in gold, and infrequently in plat. Once you get above plat he literally disappears. This is because Darius is a binary champion who absolutely shits on disorganized pubs, but is super easy to handle (especially in a team scenario) if you have a decent head on your shoulders.

Above Plat Darius is basically a "pick to lose" champion who's only played by extremely dedicated one-tricks, and it's pretty widely acknowledged that he's weak.

Yasuo isn't nearly as binary as Darius. He takes noticeably more skill to pull off and he also has noticeably more potential to work, but he still operates on the same wave length. Frustrating to unskilled players who do not want to improve, a non-issue / free lane to people who have a grip on the game and actually know what they're doing.

And.. The meta does not fit yasuo? What the actual fuck are you talking about?

The meta is ADC's have massive burst and ruin games. Wind Wall is probably the hardest counter ADC's have in a single ability. If Yasuo doesn't thrive in this meta then it's a pretty gigantic sign of him having significant problems, because this is THEmeta he should be kicking ass in.

Yasuo's 'power' is basically a meme. Scrublords hate him because his wind wall is a gigantic frustration which they can actually see (where as a lot of other champions and their defensive measures are far less visible) and, rather than improve as players, they'd rather go on forums to scream and wail about the unfairness of it all.

Right now he's decidedly average, and this is after he already got some pretty hefty buffs to pull him out of the gutter he started this season in.

FlowDartXMar 14, 20181 votes

#1)# No the ADC meta is not a good place for him as it also happens to be tank counter-meta concurrently #2) No Darius is not regarded as weak, hes literally just not banned because hes not as problematic as things like Gnar or Jayce who can dumpster you from afar. #3)# No Yasuo is not hard to win lane when he dumpsters on the only things that ever would have ever countered him due to his buffs and in general toxic lane patterns. #4)# People don't play Yasuo in higher ELO because he isnt the META pick and there are higher priorities, wave clear, ease of roaming, and finally late game damage. Hence why things like Cass and Azir are so problematic right now. Also its already been stated that the ease that champions like talon, and zed can clear waves needs to be cut back because they're not supposed to be roaming for free and are supposed to be punished for roaming in CS if it doesn't work out.

Furthermore the balance is never around high ELO players, its around gold and silver players. Sorry to say but that just makes your argument unfounded that he doesn't need to be changed.

FlowDartXMar 14, 20181 votes

So in essence quit complaining about the actual state of Yasuo and just look at the balance changes that I suggested, its not like they harm his damage all that much, especially towards the end and I even made exceptions for him to have a window of power that could fit his high risk high reward playstyle. Comment on my changes. Not circle jerking the fighter meta that dominated League for far too long.