the reason riot is holding back on nerfing CRIT is most likely because of melee carries

GodlyBane··2 votes·382 views

if they decided to nerf crit, Yasuo yasuo would need 10% extra damage on crits, instead of -10% damage on crits

if they nerfed crit, MasterYi yi would have to be buffed hard on his E, or reworked entirely

what about Tryndamere tryndamere? hes not an amzing champ as he isnt tanky, counterable (very easily) and etc

and lets not forget, a lot of assasin players incorperate crit into their builds sometimes just because of the damage they rely on.

crit is unbalancable because of how it is, if you make marksmens crit value less, then marksmen will have to build lethality, and im not sure if you have faced a jhin with a duskblade, on his fourth shot, using item 3094 item 3087 as a squishy, but he can literally one shot any squishy with 1900 hp (no shields)

(btw, "nerf" means to degrade the items stats, im fine with making the costs more expensive if riot is planning on doing this option instead, which i would agree with)

however, nerfing adc's instead of items could be better. Example: marksmen champs do 20 - 10% less crit damage and boom, adc's should be in a fine spot until the next damage meta. And for the jhin example up there, marksmen could just do less from on-hit effects.

one again, im not ok with riot nerfing crit, since some melee champs are too reliant on it. However, im saying its ok for riot to increase costs, or reduce marksmen damage.

Thank you.

8 Comments

Oleandervine2 votes

I would be totally ok with a nerf to crit gutting Yi, Yasuo, and Tryndamere. All 3 of them have very binary and poorly designed kits revolving around their interactions with autoattacking. Tryndamere has needed to be updated for a while now. His kit is the ultimate example of feast or famine. Yasuo can be dumpstered the entire game until he builds 2 crit items, and then suddenly upswing so hard he's untouchable. Yi is also very feast or famine. Their kits need to be fixed and replaced so they're healthier for the game, instead of worrying about how to preserve them as they are.

GodlyBane1 votes

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I would be totally ok with a nerf to crit gutting Yi, Yasuo, and Tryndamere. All 3 of them have very binary and poorly designed kits revolving around their interactions with autoattacking. Tryndamere has needed to be updated for a while now. His kit is the ultimate example of feast or famine. Yasuo can be dumpstered the entire game until he builds 2 crit items, and then suddenly upswing so hard he's untouchable. Yi is also very feast or famine. Their kits need to be fixed and replaced so they're healthier for the game, instead of worrying about how to preserve them as they are.

that yasuo one is not true, if a yasuo is dumpstered, he will be dumpstered and stay behind all game as everyone else will already be further ahead of him.. crit doesnt just work as an auto win you know.. not to mention, yas isnt an auto attack champ, im pretty sure you should know that, as he mostly relies on combos and dashing to outplay people.

if the yas is good, he might just maybe be able to comeback from 1/5/3 but only if the yas is good, no other acceptions

The Headbutter2 votes

IDK Most people I see that do well on Master Yi go something like bloodrazor/guinsoo's/ Botrk/frozen mallet & or sterak's and destroy. May not be the MOST optimal build but wouldn't hurt him that much.

Bern2 votes

If you're deadset on nerfing crit, I'd suggest making the crit on zeal items a named, unique passive.

Is it a harsh nerf? Yes. Does it hit ADCs a lot harder than melee carries, though? You bet your ass it does. (Yasuo only needs one zeal item. Tryn has innate extra crit. Yi prefers on-hit anyways. You get the idea.)

SithesisLord2 votes

All the nerf crit items need is Zeal items having a cost range from 3k to 3.3k.

Late game scaling should have late game costs.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Or, you know, "nerfing crit" isn't the be-all, end-all people seem to think it is, and actual balancing work takes much more effort then just saying stuff.

Solicitude1 votes

Yasuo Tryndamere MasterYi are all in a very bad spot right now and they will get even worse if crit does get nerfed.

BUT, and i say this as a top/mid laner who mostly plays tanks on top, im tired of an ADC criting me for 1k+ damage when i have 250+ armor and they have no penetration. And this has really happened. While ADCs' are meant to have high sustained damage, they shouldnt be able to do so high damage with each aa. Especially since aa is totally free and has no cd, unless you are Jhin and need to reload.

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