I don't know about you all, but I am really not excited for fizz players to go back to full AP. I really look forward to him one shotting me as a fighter, blowing up ADC's with one Q, and then just using Zyhonya's to not die before finishing off my whole team.
Heckin Support2 votesBut how he stands now, he can build however he wants and still shred you. Maybe not as bursty as old ap fizz but he will shred you and you can't run from him or try to catch him out. He's meant to be a safe assassin, so why should he still be allowed to shred people but also tank up everything?
HaIlMonitor1 votesHe isn't as tanky as people put on. When full he is Bruiser. I have played it and vs it and never really was scared of AD fizz. They both have the same weakness of pretty much no CC other then ult. But when AP fizz gets his Lichbane and Zyhonya's he can one shot squishes anyways. Where even a full build fizz can duel an ADC but it depends on who is more fed and which adc.
DarthSpectrum1 votesAD Fizz is much more terrifying than AP Fizz from my experience.
Generally, champions such as 
and 
can beat Fizz 90% of the time if he goes AP. They are generally considered his "counters."
However, when he goes AD he can actually win 1 v 1 against Akali and Diana. AD Fizz can even hold his own against Riven and Irelia provided he doesn't snowball them.
HaIlMonitor1 votesAD Fizz is much more terrifying than AP Fizz from my experience.
Generally, champions such as
As a rengar main I love AD fizz. I can blow him up and sustain off his pitiful damage. AP fizz in the one I fear because he just R, w, Q, dead.
Matezoide1 votesThen we will complain again until he goes back to being a Bruiser.
Thats the Fizz cycle, my friend. Riot doesnt seem to know what to do with this champion, because regardless of how he is tweaked, he always ends up coming back.
Shénzhì1 votes#Fizz is ugly. It is like the mascot of ugly. It does not have a place in the champion roster.
Akali is SO HOT1 votesBoth of his builds are still annoying as hell. A nerf to either of his builds is a win in my book
metaworldpeace101 votesHonestly, its gotten to the point where they might need to do a small scale rework on him. He's been tough to balance and they can't find a solid balance point with him. His kit is toxic in the sense that the counterplay against him is very limited.
HaIlMonitor1 votesHonestly, its gotten to the point where they might need to do a small scale rework on him. He's been tough to balance and they can't find a solid balance point with him. His kit is toxic in the sense that the counterplay against him is very limited.
I kind of agree but he is part of the power nine (YES FOR A MTG REFERENCE!) 
and to a lesser extent champions like 
and 
. These are champions that even when they have a sub 45% win rate people will still complain about them being to strong how they have no counter play and blah blah blah. The community hates them all because they choose not to learn how to beat them and instead would rather just feed them then complain haha.
Swollwonder1 votesMeanwhile in line 
DarthSpectrum1 votesAP Fizz 2.0 will have much less ratios than the old AP Fizz.
He might actually need his ultimate to kill a carry now, unlike the old AP Fizz who did more damage than most ultimates on 1 Q.