With CertainlyT updating Caitlyn for the ADC rework...

xl Kirito lx·10/24/2015, 10:19:02 PM·3 votes·1,206 views

I figured I'd just jump on the bandwagon early. So, with that said: I hate this rework, it's a nerf. Completely destroys character identity, please buff.

Then, a few weeks after the changes hit: omg CertainlyT creates broken champions, so OP.

Jokes aside thou, there are a few things I wouldn't mind seeing when the ADC changes hit.

The biggest thing that bugs me about Caitlyn is her ultimate. It's a point and click ability. That bugs me on a sniper class. It's supposed to be "A sniper never misses", but an aim-assist just feels wrong. What I'm suggesting is this.

RANGE: 2000 / 2500 / 3000 --> Global Targeted --> Skillshot

Maybe a slight change to projectile speed and projectile size to compensate. I don't think there needs to be a huge change to damage, her ulti already does respectable damage. Maybe add a slight piercing effect. At the very least, I'd like it if the ultimate didn't automatically cancel if the target went untargetable while the bullet was mid flight. So many champions will go untargetable mid fight, at least make them time the dodge. -- It's also possible someone else body blocks it, even if the target goes untargetable.

Other minor things I'd like to see, but I doubt to get:

  • Incentive to build raw AD or Crit over attack speed.
  • Transition from an early game bully to a more mid - late game change.

20 Comments

Ralanr10/25/2015, 3:52:14 AM3 votes

Personally, Caitlyn having a global skillshot ultimate makes sense. She's a sniper after all.

Lugg10/25/2015, 4:17:29 AM2 votes

Seriously, how can you complain about Caitlyn's ult? It is the easiest to block skill in the game.

Hayaishi210/25/2015, 3:02:51 AM1 votes

Any links to her rework?

AsphodelNext10/25/2015, 3:56:24 AM1 votes

The other thing, though, is that her bullets fly super slow. Like at less than bullet speed. That always made me feel like I was launching some kind of homing missile cog at the target, and not sniping them. Maybe make it a skillshot, but make it really fast so unlike the other global skillshots, it actually arrives at the destination in a reasonable amount of time. Cause if you make it a skillshot, and it's slow, people will just flash it all the time and you'll never snipe anyone.

Fiveofswords10/25/2015, 4:18:54 AM1 votes

have you ever even played caitlyn?

look first of all its cute that you 'get in the mood' of what you think champs are supposed to be but caitlyn isnt actually anything like a sniper. Shes an adc. If you want sniping then try lux or something.

in caits ult if the target goes untargetable then they wont get attacked but caits cd is only 4 seconds. Its quite irrelevant frankly, and cait doesnt evne need her ult frankly.

cait already is much smarter to build raw ad rather than attack speed. Cait and mf are probably the 2 adc that want attack speed the least. Sure you get shiv or phantom dancer eventually, but you dont need it early.

caits late game is quite strong. Theres a period in the mid game where she is weak but cait players are used to it and know how to not lose from it.

BluePolarizer10/25/2015, 4:53:19 AM1 votes

Caitlyn is now a jungling support bruiser. GG reworks.

SEKAI10/25/2015, 4:57:47 AM1 votes

Remember it's a CertainlyT rework folks so I bet we'd get a new Cait who will passively 1 shot a Yordle champion when she has vision of them, alongside getting an inspired new title like "The Watcher of Justice".

Can't wait.

RisenDarkKnight10/25/2015, 7:58:15 AM1 votes

The thing is, so many adcs already have global skillshot ults. Ashe ,Draven ,Ezreal, and Jinx. I think part of their goal with the rework is to make each adc feel more different. Right now if you say "I'm gonna play the adc that snipes ppl with their ult," the answer is already "Which one?" so this may not be the change they'll go for.

Lazypeon10010/24/2015, 10:54:18 PM1 votes

I'm actually okay with Cait being an early game champion. Cait will always have a strong early just due to her range. I think it's okay if she falls off late (relatively speaking, she still scales well into late because she is an ADC, just not as well as other adcs!) if her early is going to stay the same. if they reduce her range, that would be changing the character identity a bit too much for my liking.

Ideas I think riot should somehow expand on would be her ult as you said and or her traps. I love her traps, I think they are actually really cool and would love to see them further emphasized on.

Sightless6610/25/2015, 5:59:10 PM1 votes

Yes, because we need ANOTHER adc with a global skillshot. Not like we've got plenty of those already. It's a unique skill. Leave it unique.

It would be a pretty large nerf anyway. It's single-target, narrow, and doesn't have any added benefits to hitting someone. That's just not very good for a global skillshot. The loss of reliability would vastly outstrip the global potential. We'd have to give it a damage increase or a new effect.

Mordepool10/24/2015, 11:22:23 PM1 votes

Morde main posting here now waiting for your joke to become a literal concern

It won't though unless they turn Caitlyn into a jungler with AA's disabled unless you're standing next to an ally.

Lol who knows