Can someone explain to me why people hate dynamic queue?

Credit Ninja·6/2/2016, 2:58:21 PM·5 votes·623 views

I predominantly play solo into ranked and I didn't really notice a drastic change in personal win percentage after dynamic queue was implemented. People say pre-mades ruined ranked but I have rarely run into them throughout the entire season and in addition even if you get paired up with and against one, the odds of one pre-made being better than the other is still 50/50. So blaming most losses on pre-mades seems a bit over exaggerating.

I'm not really advocating or protesting dynamic queue, if anything I'm pretty neutral (I wouldn't mid if it stayed or went away,) but I still have a hard time grasping why it's so hated. Can anyone explain to me in detail why it's the bane of many solo ranked players?

12 Comments

L0ve Is Blue6/2/2016, 3:07:55 PM2 votes

1- Premades. They don't communicate, they decide how the game will be played on their own since they are the majority of the players in your game. It feels horrible to be alone with a 4-3 man premade and to be left out and lose because they just won't communicate or keep doing what THEY think is good.

2- Queue time is just cancer at any elo.

3- Overall, Dynamic queue is just not as good as Solo queue for expressing your personal skills. The ONLY problem Riot points out about Solo Queue is toxicity, and there is a mute buton in the game so if you are being harassed or shit talked it's litteraly your choice because you can chose to mute the person who does so. The only reason there is less toxicity is because we have the role we want, but is it worth waiting 15-60 minutes? No. I prefer a fair Queue where my skills are representative and where queue time is ok instead of this cancer where the only upside is getting my favorite role.

The Whamboozler6/2/2016, 4:28:08 PM2 votes

There are a multitude of reasons, so I'll just state my own personal one for disliking it.

I feel ranked should be an even playing field for all players. Every player should start the game with no inherent advantage or disadvantage compared to the other 9 players. Premades clearly have an advantage in communication. Even when both teams have them (which riot claims is almost always the case when premades appear at all), that means that there are still one or two solo players on each team who are at a disadvantage compared to their enemies and their own teammates. My main issue is that playing WITH a premade often puts you in the backseat while the premade decides the game, due to how strong the edge in coordination is. For a game that is supposed to be about competitive skill, giving any of the players an advantage over the others is unacceptable to me.

I would like to see pure solo queue, where not even duos are allowed... and five man ranked teams. And that is it! These are the only two modes where I feel all the players on each side start the match on even footing, with no one having or lacking something that other players in those games have. My issue with Dynamic Queue is that it isn't fair... and I don't feel it CAN be fair. I think Riot is just going to assign some MMR bonus to premades or penalty to solos and call it a day if the numbers seem to be close to "each group wins 50% of the time". But those statistics are misleading, because those games aren't really even, they're just skewed to look even.

I also just personally don't find it fun to take a backseat to four-man premades whenever they show up, but that's a personal issue. The mode just feels unfair to me, because it provides an in-game advantage to some players while letting others suffer under the typical solo queue problems of poor coordination and team communication. There is NO advantage to it for solo players... and it feels to me like Riot is playing favorites with which players they care about.

Dominick Destine6/2/2016, 7:32:35 PM2 votes

1- Devaluing of.... no, not even devaluing.... outright destruction of ranked integrity; This means that my Platinum or Diamond rank does not mean what it used to mean. Ripping away my achievement.

2- Forces me to play with/against premades. I do not want to play with, or against, organized teams.

3- Ruins the concept of individual skill.

That's all. These three reasons are enormous and completely ruin the game.

Tahyana6/2/2016, 3:01:02 PM1 votes

If I had to guess by all the complaints, I would say because they can't have their role 100% of the time. That and they don't like being in the same cue with or against pre-mades. Watching the video on the death of SoloQ, is seemed to me the players were complaining about not getting their role, even after it was explained to them why they couldn't get it all of the time.

Credit Ninja6/2/2016, 7:29:47 PM1 votes

Thanks for the input guys, it really does open your eyes to things. I guess dynamic queue really is hampering with the integrity of ranked games. It was just hard to see when most of the people seemed to mindlessly hate it without reason.