Garen, the "easiest champion", should not be allowed to be meta

RestInWoosh·Sep 3, 2018·9 votes·2,306 views

He's currently the second best top laner at 52% winrate If he's so simple, why is he so strong? Same with ADC's. Jhin and Kai'Sa are fairly simple, and they have had somewhere around 10% pickrate and 52% winrate for the past week Balance team needs to stop nerfing assassins for being unfun, and nerf the actually strong champions

17 Comments

destroyer22719Sep 3, 20183 votes

Garen is a cancer ass champion and shouldn't even exist. At least his sister Lux takes an actual brain to play. Garen is simply too OP at no skill.

ned the kledSep 3, 20182 votes

hard to swallow pills

every champion has a skill set to master which takes time and effort

RestInWooshSep 3, 20181 votes

animation canceling is not a garen exclusive tech, but it's his only tech justify

ned the kledSep 4, 20181 votes

don't think you know Risti then.

the game isn't only about champion mechanics. macro and micro exist

Vapor Wave VibesSep 3, 20182 votes

An easier champion to play should be easier to counter or less abilities to use in some situations. Garen stats are so high that it makes up for his lack of utility since he can tank and out dmg a lot of champs cuurently

Moody PSep 3, 20181 votes

If he's so simple, why is he so strong?

because he's simple and makes up for his lack of versatility by having raw numbers? easy champions that are balanced will sit on a higher average winrate even in the ELOs where they stop actually being good.

Sona PingSep 3, 20181 votes

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Garen, the "easiest champion", should not be allowed to be meta

He's currently the second best top laner at 52% winrate If he's so simple, why is he so strong? Same with ADC's. Jhin and Kai'Sa are fairly simple, and they have had somewhere around 10% pickrate and 52% winrate for the past week Balance team needs to stop nerfing assassins for being unfun, and nerf the actually strong champions

"If he's so simple, why is he so strong?"

You'll find shotguns are pretty simple to use. You'll also find there are situations where they are effective.

FOR JUSTICESep 3, 20181 votes

because hes just that simple.

you cant really misplay him, so noobs have an easier time winning.

RestInWooshSep 3, 20181 votes

that doesn't justify his insane stats

Critmaster GarenSep 3, 20182 votes

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that doesn't justify his insane stats

yes it does. its called power budget. for everything he doesnt have in his kit, like range, mobility, team engage, peel abilities, in combat sustain, aoe cc ... he has something else.

garen is a juggernaut. as a juggernaut he mostly gets high base damage and to be really beefy, so he can carry games.

since hes not a mechanical complex champion, his gameplay is very straight forward, which makes him equally easy to outplay by more complex champions.

this means garen players mostly have to compensate with increased game knowledge, and preparing strategies in advance to deal with every matchup they could possibly be faced with, and pay more attention to item builds and develop many different playstiles depending on rune choices.

garen is not a mechanical champion, but a strategic champion.

of course, building a pile of game knowledge and preparing strategies and item builds in advance isnt as flashy as an akali or irelia making in the moment decisions and mechanical plays. it still requires a large amount of efford, and there is mastery to such a champion.

Hexs FortuneSep 3, 20181 votes

The assassin heavy meta favored Garen's kit. A tank heavy meta where everyone's building magic resist would give him a much harder time

vimaidSep 3, 20181 votes

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The assassin heavy meta favored Garen's kit. A tank heavy meta where everyone's building magic resist would give him a much harder time

isn't he like a magic hater though?

Hexs FortuneSep 3, 20181 votes