Skip to content

Why does Riot not listen to the community?

RestInWoosh··4 votes·1,688 views

It's very clear with a quick hover that no one likes Zed, we all agree he is a bit much right now, no one likes fighting yasuo, and we want more champs to be meta. Meta slaves make the game unplayable and annoying, and yet Riot looks at us and says "Go cry about it and buy more skins". Why?

14 Comments

RookPusher2 votes

They listen to data. If you don't like him, ban him.

óÔÔÔò2 votes

Data doesn't make them money, players do. They've continually ignored the community since I joined the game and I've played since season 2. Meta has run the game for the past two seasons and honestly is where they ruined the game. It's VERY clear pro play is all riot cares about for the simple fact it makes them money. I recently watched an interview on youtube with the head of riot's balance team who was asked multiple questions about the meta and every. single. question. he dodged or gave some bullshit non-related response. The simple fact that most of riots community is made up of BRONZE and SILVER players and the game is balanced for Challenger. Riot never cared about the community, they simply want to milk as much money as they can at this point hence the battle royale gamemode they're "developing." It's sad to see a company have so much and do so little about the state of their game and then realizes they're losing players so they try to take shit from other games? Like riot was the innovative moba game back in s3-s5 where skill mattered and you couldn't lose a 1v1 to a support. The game is nothing but metaslaves now who only care about winning. Games are meant to be fun.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

{quoted}

Data doesn't make them money, players do. They've continually ignored the community since I joined the game and I've played since season 2. Meta has run the game for the past two seasons and honestly is where they ruined the game. It's VERY clear pro play is all riot cares about for the simple fact it makes them money. I recently watched an interview on youtube with the head of riot's balance team who was asked multiple questions about the meta and every. single. question. he dodged or gave some bullshit non-related response. The simple fact that most of riots community is made up of BRONZE and SILVER players and the game is balanced for Challenger. Riot never cared about the community, they simply want to milk as much money as they can at this point hence the battle royale gamemode they're "developing." It's sad to see a company have so much and do so little about the state of their game and then realizes they're losing players so they try to take shit from other games? Like riot was the innovative moba game back in s3-s5 where skill mattered and you couldn't lose a 1v1 to a support. The game is nothing but metaslaves now who only care about winning. Games are meant to be fun.

Mate why are you necroing a 2 month old thread?

RookPusher1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=99iLka9g,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-05T15:22:59.952+0000)

Mate why are you necroing a 2 month old thread?

This

Hyquiem2 votes

Community complain >>>> Community discusses >>>> community complains >>>> riot listens and takes then longest breath in history >>>> boards now in arguments + constant hate >>>> cycle.

Why should they. It’s not like anyone can come up with a unbiased opinion and actually convince riot so easily. Less then the fact complains are so common it just adds up to stop crying..

2 reasons. First and foremost, Did you create the game? Do you develop it?

Next: League is adaptive how come you aren’t?

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

Clearly alot of people like Zed and Yasuo otherwise they wouldn't be so popular.

Gravirose1 votes

Learn to adapt, if you don't like playing vs these champs just ban them, just because you don't seem to enjoy playing vs them doesn't mean other people do. Yasuo has a very annoying kit and resolve tree is pretty good right now, which helps him a lot. I don't see how Zed is OP lol, that champion is just popular. League community just cries about everything over actually adapting to the situation.

óÔÔÔò1 votes

Do you understand what metaslave means? You can't really adapt to a new meta every 2 weeks. According to you I'm suppose to ENJOY constantly having to relearn the game meta every patch. And let's not forget how minimal the patches riot does are. They take a whole two weeks to give a single champion 5 more movement speed...Constantly changing who's over powered and who isn't something people want to play because its not enjoyable...What other game do you know of that forces players to adapt to what the company decides is overpowered EVERY TWO WEEKS.

ZedUsanGovos1 votes

"It's very clear with a quick hover that no one likes Zed, we all agree he is a bit much right now, no one likes fighting yasuo, and we want more champs to be meta. Meta slaves make the game unplayable and annoying, and yet Riot looks at us and says "Go cry about it and buy more skins". Why?"

Riot does not listen to the Boards when it comes to Gameplay. Nobody wants to hear the amazing balancing ideas of Silver Crybabies who can't fight Zed or Yasuo and then proceed to whine and bitch on the Boards.

It's very clear with a quick hover that a lot of people like Zed. Once again, those aforementioned Silver Crybabies agree he is a bit much right now. Ask literally anyone decent at the game, and they'll say the opposite. Same with Yasuo-- although his powerspike is much more powerful than Zed's. Zed is NOT meta in any sense of the word (yet). He will be, in the coming patches, but he's not there yet. Riot looks at us and says: "Go cry about it and buy more skins for anyone but Zed", considering that Zed only has two purchasable skins over the course of what, 6 years, now?

Your frustration is misplaced. Don't bitch at Riot because you lack the ability to fight Zed/Yasuo effectively. Bitch at yourself and try to improve your laning phases and picks. Improve your micro and macro.

RestInWoosh2 votes

"Bullshit aside Yasuo is a broken champion." Apdo, Korean Rank 1 mid laner. One hell of a silver crybaby if he is literally the best League of Legends player in the world.

ZedUsanGovos1 votes

{quoted}

"Bullshit aside Yasuo is a broken champion." Apdo, Korean Rank 1 mid laner. One hell of a silver crybaby if he is literally the best League of Legends player in the world.

Nice necroposting.

Secondly, that statement was made in September 2016. Try again with a less outdated quote by Apdo.

óÔÔÔò1 votes

"Silver crybabies" when bronze 1 - silver 2 makes up majoirty of the league community. Why would riot not listen to the MAJORITY of their player base rather than the people who got lucky and got to high elo. "Your frustration is misplaced. Don't bitch at Riot because you lack the ability to fight Zed/Yasuo effectively. Bitch at yourself and try to improve your laning phases and picks. Improve your micro and macro." Riot makes the game what it is and puts meta where they want meta to be placed. That fact alone shows riot is fully at fault for their game and what their COMMUNITY (not the 2% of players that make up diamond+) When you have over 140+ champions to play in a game and only 15 are "meta" making everything non meta basically useless even when ahead. If you want to start an argument go watch some pro play from season 3-4 and compare it to what the game is now. The game lasts either no time at all now or goes into late game where both teams are so equal it only matters who clicks the wrong fucking place on their map. Team fights are no longer team fights, there's no "WOW" plays in the game anymore. You can't expect team play at such low elo now because there's TOO much diversity in the game. Riot literally will never stop changing their game and for that reason they will gradually decline until this game is dead.

ZedUsanGovos1 votes

{quoted}

"Silver crybabies" when bronze 1 - silver 2 makes up majoirty of the league community. Why would riot not listen to the MAJORITY of their player base rather than the people who got lucky and got to high elo. "Your frustration is misplaced. Don't bitch at Riot because you lack the ability to fight Zed/Yasuo effectively. Bitch at yourself and try to improve your laning phases and picks. Improve your micro and macro." Riot makes the game what it is and puts meta where they want meta to be placed. That fact alone shows riot is fully at fault for their game and what their COMMUNITY (not the 2% of players that make up diamond+) When you have over 140+ champions to play in a game and only 15 are "meta" making everything non meta basically useless even when ahead. If you want to start an argument go watch some pro play from season 3-4 and compare it to what the game is now. The game lasts either no time at all now or goes into late game where both teams are so equal it only matters who clicks the wrong fucking place on their map. Team fights are no longer team fights, there's no "WOW" plays in the game anymore. You can't expect team play at such low elo now because there's TOO much diversity in the game. Riot literally will never stop changing their game and for that reason they will gradually decline until this game is dead.

Firstly, holy shit stop necroposting.

Secondly...

when bronze 1 - silver 2 makes up majoirty of the league community. Why would riot not listen to the MAJORITY of their player base rather than the people who got lucky and got to high elo.

It doesn't take luck. It takes skill. Riot listens to the majority of their player base because THAT is where the money comes from. Why should Riot listen to a bunch of kids who wouldn't know the definition of Macro Play if it right-hooked them in the face versus people who have been playing this game for either long enough that they know more than said kids, or people who simply are THAT good to get to THAT level?

Riot makes the game what it is and puts meta where they want meta to be placed. That fact alone shows riot is fully at fault for their game and what their COMMUNITY (not the 2% of players that make up diamond+) When you have over 140+ champions to play in a game and only 15 are "meta" making everything non meta basically useless even when ahead.

Ok... I agree that they put the meta where they want it, but I didn't mention anything about the meta in that segment. Of course Riot is at fault for their game. That's like saying the deadbeat parents of a troubled kid are at fault for not raising the kid and taking care of him. Like... no shit lmfao. But you gravely underestimate the power of off-meta. You ever done Cho'Gath mid into Zed? Maybe even AP Alistar Mid against Zed? You don't NEED to pick a "meta" champion when it comes to EVERY single match.

If you want to start an argument go watch some pro play from season 3-4 and compare it to what the game is now. The game lasts either no time at all now or goes into late game where both teams are so equal it only matters who clicks the wrong fucking place on their map. Team fights are no longer team fights, there's no "WOW" plays in the game anymore. You can't expect team play at such low elo now because there's TOO much diversity in the game. Riot literally will never stop changing their game and for that reason they will gradually decline until this game is dead.

No shit the game is different. Season 3 was, what, 5 years ago? In a game that updates pretty consistently every 2 weeks, obviously it'd be dramatically changed compared to what it is now. People are gonna use this excuse in 3 years from now, comparing the game to Season 6. You can't expect the game to remain so stagnant. Otherwise, League wouldn't be as successful as an e-sport as it is. You don't expect team play at low elo because the people in low elo are goddamn walnuts with the mental capacity of a fucking plastic bag. That's why Zed and Yasuo and Riven and Vayne are so successful in low elo. People don't know how to play against them, versus higher elo, where people actually use their brains and it becomes more difficult to play against them. It's not diversity. You can have 340 champions in this game, and the result would be the same. High elo knows how to actually play the goddamn game, and certain champions aren't problems for them. Compared to low elo, which runs around with their dicks out and their eyes closed, hoping to fuck a game into Victory without actually focusing on the issues.

Once again, that logic is fucking flawed as all hell. If Riot kept the game in Season 3/4 Meta, how successful would the game be? When Assassins were 50x stronger than they are right now? You don't seem to understand. The key to success is to improvise, adapt, and overcome. The devs improvise when a problem arises. The players adapt, and the game overcomes, rather than being stuck behind this obstacle. They don't have a set plan for where the game goes. Nobody does. They run with the flow, and it's gone pretty well for them for the past 10 years or so.

Frankly, I don't think you have a clue about what you're talking about if you think a stagnant game would last a whole goddamn decade with this much popularity in the pro scene and the casual scene.

Daddybonerneeded1 votes

Funny how everyone here takes suggestions and questions raised towards riot as a personal attack. Truly shows the ignorance of the community. Maybe another reason why the community is getting more toxic. Also everyone here is talking about the ‘meta’ when I clearly remember an old thread back from season 2 where a riot employee stated that they created the game not having a particular meta in mind which is what the majority of players especially low elo liked. They could try out new builds which is not there anymore due to the fact that the game has become so streamlined. Out of the 143 league champs only a handful of champs are seen in most games that abuse such opportunities like zed and Yasuo being good examples and that’s exactly what the majority of players don’t want because it has restricted them. Why even create a game with 143 champs when ur not gonna be using most of them? Sadly league has changed for the worse and for most of the people who are being forced to adapt have to ‘adapt for the worse’. Knowing the fact that league’s current state is horrible they apparently as a gaming company cannot revert couple of changes back which basically means if they try experimenting new things which does not work out, u as a player are basically gonna receive the biggest blow because of their mistake which shows unprofessionalism and negligence from their part which is actually not something new from riot’s side.

More from Gameplay

More by RestInWoosh