How is this acceptable, how did this champion with these buffs manage to fly through the balance team? do they even play the game when balancing?
Edit: Yes I'm using u.gg, winrate went down slightly, but hasn't budged from 55%
https://u.gg/lol/champions/garen/build?rank=overall&role=middle
Edit 2: all they are doing to garen is nerf his e by 10 damage, cool.
https://u.gg/lol/champions/garen/build?rank=overall&role=top
Because who works on this game is so competent , how would you explain Season 8 and 9 otherwise? :D
Enjoy S10!
Garen's winrate is not THAT high, and people are right about low elo skewing it.
THAT BEING SAID, Plat+ still showcases a 53.5% winrate with a 13% winrate, so Garen is definitely a problem, especially when out of the 3 best counterpicks, which are Kayle, Quinn, and Vayne, only Kayle has a positive winrate against Garen. Every other champion has a negative winrate against him.
But bruh diamond players dont know how to play l2p garen is obviously the most balanced champ in the game.
-boards ciclejerk
And they're nerfing him on PBE?
Because a lot of that win rate stems from low elo where he already pubstomped so now he is even better at it, the higher you go up, the more his win rate stabilizes
hes confirmed to get nerfed next patch guys.
Thats why theyre nerfing him.
The idea that Garen is a 'low elo pubstomper' is completely wrong.
I just had a game as Jhin where a low Platinum Garen basically dumpstered my entire team of Diamond players (and a Gold Lux). He ended the game with something like 4x more damage than the rest of his team. Making the implication that we just don't know how to play the game well is absurd.
Even with Leona, Lux, Elise, and I chaining our CC perfectly, it was still like fighting a raid boss, and he often still managed to either disengage before dying or connect with one or two of us, because we just couldn't outrun him. In this specific case, he had Yuumi attached to him 24/7, but a team that didn't have four forms of CC would have faired much worse.
This is insane, given that this player was literally doing nothing but running in a straight line for us and eating everything we threw at him. There was absolutely no skill component involved. I could throw down traps in front of him, and he would just barrel through them without bothering to sidestep.
His damage is way too high with the recent changes, given that he can now viably stack movement speed items and 100 to 0 any carry in 1-2 seconds if he makes contact. Which is incredibly hard to stop him from doing when he's breaking 600 movement speed and stacking so much tenacity that CC basically does nothing.
The balance team plays the game, but they're not very good or competent when it comes to balancing. Last I checked the highest ranked member of their balance team is in either Gold or Plat.
Because riots small balance team won't ever be able to account for player interaction across all elos? They have a playtest team, but they shoot stronger than weaker most of the time.
For a split second I thought you were going to say 55.92 win rate and 55.50 pick rate
