Bot lane isn't fun to play... unless you're part of the problem.

A Cheezburger·1/28/2019, 5:57:43 AM·4 votes·1,093 views

Mages in bot lane are an increasingly common problem. You enable them with item 3303 to the point it really doesn't matter what they play as long as they have easy, free harass abilities. Looking at you, Zyra Xerath Brand . People say things like "just dodge their skillshots" but considering they have short cooldowns and often numerous skillshots you have to dodge in order to even be able to fight back, it's just ridiculous trying to lane as an ADC. It feels like playing a prize wheel game where every prize except one is getting slapped in the face. You play bullet hell while trying to last hit and get shoved around in lane and have to do everything perfect to even be relevant in late game. This is of course assuming that by 15min the 0/0/1 enemy mid assasin Zed Talon etc isn't above 60 CS by 10min and 2 shots you with their combo every time they see you, with 0 chance of counterplay. You can only kill people in even fights when they're out of position or made a grave mistake. You can't trade with a mage support as ANY adc. Even if you can, it requires so much focus that the enemy ADC will just freely focus you. You can't freeze lane and last hit because you'll just get burned alive under your tower or zoned out of your CS by poke spam.

What ever happened to support... actually being a support? Why is every botlane a kill lane, even without any jungle ganks? What happened to babysitting your carry for a few levels until they have enough CS and items to mostly fend for themselves? Why do I rarely ever see Janna Alistar Rakan SonaSoraka picked, much less even played like a support instead of a full AP diver/mage? As a true support champion if your entire team does well enough in lane that you make it to midgame without 8 towers down, then you can shine but this rarely ever happens unless you're playing a full AP mage support, or other untouchable lane bullies like Blitzcrank Nautilus Thresh Leona.

Some (Most) ADCs overcome this by having kits that synergize well with the end-all of must-rush starter items like item 3095 because of the un-counterable bullying power they provide against champions who don't rush it. Every game feels the same, disregard upgrading your boots because whoever completes item 3095 first is going to win.

TL;DR, The game doesn't feel fun or rewarding to play as an ADC anymore. You get harassed out of lane for trying to farm under the pressure of mages who can always all in you with no repercussion (and are even encouraged, item 3098 ), and then get dove by assassins with no counterplay unless you rush defensive items to live through 1 more auto/DoT tick and consequently have no damage. It hardly even feels good to play as an actual support, because what can you do, shield 100 damage, disable the enemy for half a second?

Please stop enabling this type of gameplay. We know the reason you don't see it as a problem is because this sort of thing isn't an issue in pro play. Where everyone is amazing and can make huge plays out of thin air, and plays their role to near perfection. Anywhere below Platinum is just a competition of "which side picked the best level 2 all-in".

5 Comments

iiGazeii1/28/2019, 6:14:35 AM4 votes

High damage mages don't WANT to be there. There's so much more gold and XP in a solo lane, but mid is hell for an immobile burst mage. When assassins are strong, burst mages are forced to support. At least in the bot lane, a burst mage gets to play the game rather than hugging the tower for dear life.

Damage is a systemic issue.

Syrile1/28/2019, 7:53:54 AM2 votes

As for the OP. I like mages so it is not all that bad for me when I play them in bot lane. But I can counter them pretty good with Leona as well. Rakan also, at least before the nerfs. I have not used him since. Alistar is a little harder but possible. Soraka is still okay if the ADC is good and knows how to farm well. But it really is annoying to have to constantly dodge everything from a Brand or be automatically killed by 100-0 burst with one rotation if I am not playing Leona.