How do I Beat Vladimir as Irelia?

Ratffeine·5/27/2018, 8:48:11 PM·2 votes·7,491 views

Hello! I'm an Irelia one-trick and having one huge issue: Vladimir. I've learned how to beat every other Irelia counter in laning phase, but can't seem to find a way around Vladimir during the laning phase. After laning phase, there's no problems.

The best strategies I could come up with for laning phase...

Strat: All-in Level 2 Drawback: If I miss the stun I'm forced to play passive until level 3.

Strat: All-in Level 3 Drawback: Even though the trade is won, he sustains the lane better and can keep healing up any damage dealt through short trades.

Strat: Play hyper-aggressive Drawback: It only works before level 3. Once he has W, an autoattack fight will only result in defeat.

Strat: Wait until level 6, bait his W by instantly ulting, land stun after his W ends. Drawback: Irelia's all-in early game isn't as strong as Vladimir's. There's a section towards the end of a full trade (After all ults are over and both players are on cd) where both Irelia and Vladimir have about the same hp. If Vladimir manages to get out of range or runs into fog of war, the only option is to retreat and accept the trade; though he ends up healing back up. If I try to autoattack duel, I put myself at risk of his Q coming off cooldown or a jungler gank.

Strat: Take ignite. Drawback: If he also takes ignite, you have no choice but to forfeit the lane. If you have teleport and he has ignite, you can try to teleport into other lanes and just win other lanes, or get a lucky snowball off of a potential double/triple kill botlane. But if you take ignite and he takes ignite, you end up not using it at all during the game because both ignites cancel each other out (since Ire already loses the lane, it's back to square one).

Strat: Forfeit the lane, don't feed. Drawback: Albeit the only strat I found that works, it causes a potential loss in lane pressure and allows for the enemy jungler to completely forget about toplane. On top of that, it allows Vladimir a free lane to farm and puts you behind until you can find a place to get an edge. To top all of that off, if other lanes lose then the game's practically over, as Irelia relies on staying caught up or snowballing.

I just don't have anymore ideas on how to beat Vladimir. Any Irelia or Vladimir players know what I can do?

17 Comments

D3m37r15/27/2018, 10:03:55 PM1 votes

Irelia has counters?

Linna Excel5/28/2018, 4:12:28 AM1 votes

What item do you start/rush against Vlad?

ı Sona ı5/28/2018, 4:17:46 AM1 votes

Don't push as hard as you normally do and you may be able to set up the lane for your Jungle to gank, especially with that nice stun!

Subject 55/28/2018, 4:17:46 AM1 votes

As Irelia you need to use W when he bursts or until his blood bar goes back to reset. After that he has to pool or retreat, both of which are punishments. This should be repeated after words with an engagement.

Though if this is top, then he's suppose to be ganked for not having an escape. If the match up is mid . . . well. Why Irelia mid, I guess?

PhDs Nuts5/29/2018, 5:41:03 AM1 votes

I don't see how Irelia loses this lane. Everything Vlad does is telegraphed by either a long animation or his blood bar, which sets up an easy W to negate pretty much all of his damage. Make him use his combo on you near his caster minions, W it, Q to a caster minion and fight him. He'll have to pool away and then you just Q back onto him. Save your stun for after his pool for the Q reset. If you have Q back up after the trade, Q back to the minion wave to prevent retaliation since his cooldowns will be up.

woodvsmurph5/29/2018, 6:02:33 AM1 votes

Don't play to kill vlad early on? Just look to get early tiamat and abuse pushing power early on before vlad gets levels and items. Push and roam... invading with your jungler, ganking mid, grabbing scuttle. He will also probably miss cs under tower which helps you slowly build a lead. Should play out somewhat similar to a gp.

EasyWin0112/27/2018, 8:43:09 PM1 votes

I am a vladimir onetrick, and some irelias do against me:they Try to W my Q so i cant heal much when i all-in and if they are lucky, they can press it in the right moment so they take less dmg from my ulti, i usually use my W when i engage against easy matchups, so thats when irelia counter-all-ins me, if that doesn't works, you should just outfarm him then to preassure jungle or mid, because if botlane is high silver they not caring enought about others, and you can get behind even more, if the matchup still bad, try to avoid fightig vlad after lvl6, cuz his ulti is way more powerful against you than your against him, after lvl6 try to push, if he all-ins you, just try to avoid E-Q with your W, and then just run away, with help of the jungler after lvl6 you can bait out his W witb E, so he is inmobile at early cuz he doesn't has protobelt, and if he flashes then just maybe next time, alone dont fight him, only till lvl6, after that just farm and outpush him, then pressure

HUH that was a lot, hope it helpedIrelia summoner 12 item 3053

EasyWin0112/27/2018, 8:58:52 PM1 votes

https://youtu.be/efVV0F_iB_0 try to do the same till like the 10th minute then you going to have a great chance to live throught the laning, deny farm, poke when its free, freeze, or fastpush when its needed ask for jungler, pressure other lanes(or jungle) and snowball other lanes if yiu cnat get further in-game, if this matchup difficult for you, then the vladimirs must smurf or just hardstuck high-silver vladimir maines with over 2mil points LuL not flaming, just sayin'Irelia Vladimir