seriously so far ive seen 
and 
with 
and i gotta say its broken asf ESPECIALLY i saw her literally one shot an assassin with just a basic attack with this thing atleast with assassins they have to get close and hit you to prock duskblade but adcs are a different story and its broken asf on them.
Nipsahoy9 votesMelee is just as bad honestly. Some assassins are just ridiculous with it.
Executioner7 votesNah, just blame it on the ADC, it's much easier. Just kidding.
Though I will agree melee champions are abusing the fuck out of the item, not just adc.
The item is literally broken.
Shablagoo1 votesThats fine though because they ultimately have to get close, but mf doing it from 2000 units away and getting away with her ms is annoying as hell
Executioner1 votesAll you have to do is disrupt her ult, dont fight in closed areas. Even when she was going critical mf, dont fight in closed areas. Some ADC just excel in close areas. Also you must be the ones engaging her, not her team engaging you.
Most people that have the duskblade have some kind of gap close, and its called vision.
Flank the enemy adc, gap close, and touch them. Watch them literally implode like they didn't exist.
Shablagoo1 votesI'm not even talking about MF's ult I've seen her literally just appear q and auto and blow ppl up she doesnt have to use gap closers or all her abilites and she does this from range so her getting cc and stunned is lower then that of a melee assassin. When will ppl get that adc's blowing ppl up isnt something that should be in the game they are a DPS class, at least with mf's ult is takes time and you can flash away, but a q auto duskblade oneshot from range isnt something that is healthy. When assassins assassinate ppl they use their entire combo to, Adc's just auto someone get they duskblade proc and auto again and someone is dead.
Assassins with duskblade is similar to a mages because they use their entire combo, they burst ppl down because their dmg comes from their spells assassin dont have dps they just have burst. Adc have both burst and dps which is not healthy, thats the reason they changed rengar because he had both with his q.
Executioner1 votesDPS has always killed squishy champions fast. Lethality only makes MF look good, did anyone bitch about her before lethality was here? No. They didn't. The items make her look good, even though she is a very easy champion to kill.
Before this duskblade came out, no one bitched about mf, but now that this new duskblade came out. People have been rioting once again about the abuse of adcs with lethality.
Oh I dont know maybe its the items that make them look good. Assassins have always been a hit or miss concept. They are either to overwhelming to play against, or they are underwhelming to the point, they die to easily, cant deal damage.
Shablagoo1 votesHonestly that an entirely different point from this one, but hnoestly thats a problem too. But it isnt lethality its duskblade, mf is a perfectly balanced champion and was doing well without it. Ppl dont complain about the champions they complain about the fact that they abuse items that they shouldnt.
When lethality was out the reason it was a problem on Mf was because it scaled with you level it shouldn't have, it allowed adc's to use it which obviously wasnt healthy because they had to nerf the three abusers MF, varus, and Jihn. Making it scale with your level makes more sense because assassins want to be higher level while adc's are always a lvl behind because the exp s shared with the support. That problem was solved but now duskblade is out and range champions are abusing it makes it even worse because they dont even need to use their full combo they just run in auto get the proc and auto and burst someone down. DPS and burst isnt healthy thats why ppl complain about crit too because a adc being able to dps and burst isnt healthy for the game at all, their isnt even a delay like assassin or mages.
Infernape8 votesWhy do I have the feeling that Lethality is going to inevitably get nerfed again because ADCs abused it?
Avienal15 votesWhy do I have the feeling that Lethality is going to inevitably get nerfed again because ADCs abused it?
Its not just ADCs, plenty of champions are abusing it from 
and even 
. If they are easy auto champions, natural engagers with tankiness or just champions who have enhanced autos naturally. Anything can exploit the hell out of this item, on top of that its second passive on doubles as a EZ control ward. So thats about 5 burds its killing now. Strong attack damage, a good chunk of lethality that scale off your level so 'snowballs' galore, cool down, extra auto burst and a ward killing ability, even if its not 'easy' to control. But when you have 3+ champions using the item, they are gonna shut down vision a good chunk just by roaming around.
Those same champions i mention have 'measures' to exit vision for 1 second, possibly multiple times (Especially with her W) and gap close to get another empowered auto off alongside the one they likely got off at the beginning of a engage, with a whooping 5 seconds to give 'breathing room' on it. If they don't put a 30 second proc cooldown on it, then it basically became a abuse stick for any champion who can duck out of vision once or more times( AKA 
and 
because of her R mobility and Q vision blind, hell even 
could exploit it with his smokescreen for 2 procs ) plus this is not counting champions who can plain just use the burst and don't need to proc the effect multiple times, this is just a example of champions who can use it because they can all go 'invisible for a second, sometimes more then once and exploit stacking the dmg bonus multiple times.
Point and case: GOD FUCKING DAMNMIT RIOT WHY DOES THE SHITTER ITEM NOT HAVE A COOLDOWN ON IT!?
[slayer-jinx-unamused]
Sun Wu Ryuumoku4 votesthen it basically became a abuse stick for any champion who can duck out of vision once or more times( AKA
This isn't an abuse in most of theses cases, they already build draktharr in previous patch before rework. And could already proc the effect at least twice.
AFilthyCaitMain8 votesIts broken for EVERYONE rn. it needs nerfs in general.
Have you seen 
use it?
Akali Prime3 votesIts broken for EVERYONE rn. it needs nerfs in general.
Have you seen
i am guilty of building it on illoai lol
AFilthyCaitMain1 voteswho hasnt if you play illaoi lol
AwesomeGuyDj1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hells bellsX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TkAdU8ji,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-07-24T01:49:33.998+0000)
i am guilty of building it on illoai lol
Full lethality illaoi with stattik infinity edge for the W bop it?
TálØnly5 votesthey buff lethality for assassins and adcs one shot me before I reach them Kms xd
Handy Sandy 4 votes
is more cancerous with it than any adc lul
Executioner1 votesI cant stand j4 with duskblade.
AwesomeGuyDj3 votesMiss fortune.
"bop it" My q was fucking deleting, but i was fed in aram game
SpookyNeedle3 votesSome ranged champs in fine with using duskblade 
maybe
Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votesu don't build it on
Executioner1 votesAgreed, why are people even including varus?
Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votesseems like they don't read patches, so they think he's still played as AD caster
Executioner2 votesAll of this blind hate, can be cured by reading.
Neckoe2 votesIt's broken on melee like Talon too. But tbh it's likely going to be nerfed in the future.
TálØnly1 votesOld one was better it's only good for top talon
iDemacia2 votesI just build in a game as AD 
. Went 14-1 ;D
MLDzXnRRR2 votes with this item is broken. Also why does it slow? To kite the melees? LMFAO.
1374341 votesThe slow is being removed from ranged users in the next patch.
i cant move wtf1 votesIf duskblade in its current form is broken on adc's like jhin, mf and draven then what word do we have left to describe what it is on zed or talon? Not only can they literally 1-shot any squishy with this item but they have enough mobility to close a full screen gap in 1 second. I don't even get the mentality of people complaining about adc's using this item. Forget lethality champions, how about all of the unkillable tanksthat build full armor, can never die and can either cc chain endlessly or one-shot squishies like sej, cho, hecarim, irelia or jax.
i cant move wtf2 votesBecause assassins have no mobility in their kits... If you're an assassin and you get out-dueled by an adc with duskblade, you're either incredibly behind or retarded.
Executioner1 votesHoly shit someone understands.
Fairyfleur2 votes[{quoted}](name=Hells bellsX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TkAdU8ji,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-07-24T00:02:21.361+0000)
ESPECIALLY
Clips or it didn't happen.
zaire901 votesHave you seen that on jhin had one killing enemies better than the rengar on the same team. We came back from a game with a bunch of fed snowballers because of him
UnboundHades1 votesyes lets fuck over jhin
DaNinad1 votesI mean he's the best adc right now so
Leetri1 votesIf we go purely by win rate Ziggs is actually the best "ADC" (he still builds AP). He has such low pick rate though that the first real ADC is MF. Jhin is either the 4th or 5th best ADC purely by stats.
DaNinad1 votesYou have to look at pick rate too. 52% win rate 36% pick rate is ridiculous
PePsiLemoNN1 votesThat would solve nothing. It's too strong on everyone
Karn Bishop1 votesLethality is too strong in general however i do believe that the one class who should never be allowed to build lethality should be marksmen outside of the two exceptions because the jobs of marksmen are not to be assassins.